| Subject: | Re: [RESOGUIT-L] Re: intonation question | | Date: | Thursday, January 5, 2006 13:21:39 (-0800) | | From: | Wally Hughes <one_horseman @.....com>
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Interesting how reality messes up science.
Have you ever been jamming and played a whole 2 or
three songs completely out of tune, maybe one or two
strings were off or the whole instrument a half a step
off from the rest of the crowd...and amazingly didn't
notice or noone else did?
Cause you were just playing by ear (no open strings),
and adjusting, hitting the right notes anyway.
Then you hit some open strings and ugh..Gee, guess I'd
better tune up.
Fretless instruments, you gotta love um.
W
--- Larry <orlidon@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Mr. Deneve (and others),
> With my inherently thick Polish head that certainly
> does not recognize perfect pitch if it ran
> over me with a truck, I have to wonder that in the
> real world if my wax and hair filled ears would
> pick up such minute differences in pitch. Using the
> numbers provided in your posting that each
> string changes by a factor of 105.9463094 (about 6%)
> and say that I roughly measure the distance
> between my 4th and 5th fret, about 1 3/32 (1.093)
> with a scale, add 6% to that number, and it
> gives me a distance of about .066 or about 1/16 of
> an inch. This distance would diminish even more
> as we move up the neck. So when I sit in my quiet
> office in front of the computer and move my bar
> on the string about 1/16th of an inch at the 5th
> fret, I can only very very barely distinguish a
> difference in tone from one position to another in a
> quiet room. Maybe certain South American bats
> or audio instrumentation engineers are more adept
> than I am though.
> In the real world playing with others who commonly
> have a few beers under their belt, standing
> next to a ojnab player whose Keith tuners are
> slipping if not the banjo player himself, also
> standing next to a fiddler whose squeaking and
> squawking resembles an old rusty door hinge, who is
> standing next to a base player who is not only
> making the floor and my innards vibrate and sending
> it all through speakers that are slowly moving
> across the floor out to an audience who has even
> more beers under their belt who is very likely
> paying more attention to the foxy gal next to him
> more than the reso players intonation being off by a
> few nano hertz's. I am beginning to wonder if
> we aren't over spitting hairs a bit here. Now I am
> very glad that fine lutherie is not like
> playing horse shoes or tossing hand granades and
> that is what makes the difference between a
> finely built guitar such as a DeNeve and a Chung Fu
> reso or some such thing made in a Chinese
> prison camp. Now if you are pulling your hair out
> over such things making your guitars, I will
> personally forgive you if your frets are out by an
> angstrom (10 x 10 -17th) or two. Keep the hair
> please. ...or are we a bit late for that? (;>)
>
> Larry
> back to deep lurk mode
> SF Bay Area
>
> ***************
>
> Dick said:
> "That is, each note's frequency is increased by a
> given amount (105.9463094 times the frequency of
> the next note lower) to attain
> the next note. All notes are separated by the same
> mathematical amount.
> Once again, more than you need to know."
>
> Dick DeNeve
>
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