| Subject: | Re: [RESOGUIT-L] Tunings and re-tuning | | Date: | Saturday, November 3, 2007 02:35:33 (+0000) | | From: | reso-man <reso-man @.......net>
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Nice explanation Dan,
I like the tab. I could even play it! Wow! Lately, I've been leaning towards
taking more than one guitar to a gig. I'm just to lazy....(that sounds so much
better than "I'm to old")....to haul the extra guitar around. You neglected to
mention that cranking that 4th string up, from D to E can result in the string
going "snap" when you'd least expect it.....O;-(
My DeNeve is very forgiving regarding breaking that 4th string, but my
Sho-Bros....oboy....they'll "get ya" as often as not!! I'm using a ..035
phosphor bronze for a fourth string, so someone who's thinking of changing from
normal G tuning, to that "faux G 6th" might want to go with a lighter string,
maybe even a .032 ? (Or buy one of Dick DeNeve's guitars....O;-)) Hey, usual
disclaimers etc. apply!
I've mentioned Jr. Barber many times and those who know me well, also know that
Jr. is one of my "reso-heros". A big "eye opener" for me, came a couple of years
back when I started playing along with Junior's cds. Junior "thinks" a lot in
the key of D! Till that point in my reso adventures, I used to think of "dobro"
as a key of G instrument, unless you used a capo, etc. I couldn't have been more
wrong! Junior's cds led me to that little "D scale" you tabbed out Dan, and
that, when you realize D is smack in the middle of the neck, opened up whole new
worlds.
So Josey Riggs, WELCOME to the wonderful wacky world of "dobros", and welcome to
the best discussion list online re: this subject.
That "lo D" tuning looks interesting. I don't think I've ever tried that one?
(But you can bet I will...) The D major DADF#AD is more familiar to me, and I
know of some people who use it exclusively. There are MANY ways to tune a dobro,
which when you come right down to it, is a acoustic steel guitar. As steel
guitars (a whole 'nother subject) were coming into their own, folks devised
different tunings in order to get around playing a instrument that's tuned to a
chord with one finger! That's what the bar is like, playing with one finger. So
eventually folks built double neck, tripple neck, and even FOUR NECK steel
guitars. How can you change the pitch of a single string? You retune the
instrument. Eventually someone developed a "foot pedal" and rigged it up to do
just this, and VOILA....pedal steel guitars came into being.
So Josey, unless you velcro a couple of dobros together.......
Running for cover,
Richie
ps.....keep "twangin" everyone.......by all means keep "twangin"....it's good
for ya! Ummm....I wonder what would happen if I put on some banjo "scruggs"
tuners, and hook a wire up to it....um....then I'd need some kinda return
spring......hey Mr. DeNeve sir.....you busy this weekend?
REALLY running for cover now.....DEEP cover!!!
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "D. Tannehill" <ephsmath-phys@cox.net>
> Wow, what a delima. I mostly use the tried and true GBDGBD for most of my
> playing, but for a coupla songs, I like to use a varriation of G6 that
> Richie showed me, GBEGBD. You are correct that taking time to re-tune sorta
> kills the continuity of the show, unless someoen in the band can use the
> gift of gab to keep the audience entertained while you crank up those 2
> strings. The option mentioned of using two instruments can work, but
> swapping resos onstage can be a bit frustrating also if there isn't enough
> gab to fill the void. Even though I'm only changing one string, that's what
> I've opted to do. I keep Virginia (2005 Tut Taylor Virginian) tuned standard
> and Hazel (1986 OMI 60DS) is waiting on the stand tuned to G6.
>
> I suppose it depends on what genre of music you're playing and your style,
> but if most of what you do has the I, IV, V chords, then GBDGBD may be what
> you're looking for with the capo ready to go onto the 2nd fret when needed.
> Obviously, this tuning is great for key of G, and with a capo at the second
> fret, A is handled nicely. But wait, there's more. Take the capo off and
> open is now your IV chord for songs in D. Capo at the second again and the
> IV chord of E is now open. Of course, if you like to do a lot of scale work
> in your breaks, there is a neat little D-scale that uses 4 open strings:
> Hopefully the tab makes it thru cyber-space.
>
> -----------------------------0-------
> --------------------0----2----------
> ------------0---2------------------
> -0---2---4-------------------------
> ------------------------------------
> -----------------------------------
>
> Naturally, if you move everything over two frets with a capo, it is now an
> E-scale. Of course, this scale also works for DADGBD.
>
> Best of luck to you. You've come to the right place for a healthy
> discussion.
>
> Dan in RI
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Josey Rigs"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 11:09 AM
> Subject: [RESOGUIT-L] Tunings and re-tuning
>
>
>
> Hi list.
>
> Started playing dobro about 5 months ago - loving it. My bandmates even like
> it enough to have me play it at shows. Right now I play in two tunings, what
> I call low G (DADGBD) and D (DADF#AD). I play some songs in one, some songs
> in the other depending on the song's key. I'm wondering if there is a
> solution to having to re-tune all the time (since that's a bit of a
> show-stopper to me) other than forcing the set list to keep all the D/E
> songs together and the G/A songs together - that just sucks.
>
> Is there an easy way to use one tuning for all these keys without setting
> capo on the 5th fret and such? What tuning is pretty good for all/most of
> them, if there is one? Do I just have to get good at changing tunings? My
> buddy says I should just get another dobro for this, which I would love to
> do of course, but we are already trucking around so many instruments! Any
> pointers welcome here, since I don't know anybody that plays dobro to ask
> about it.
>
> Thankee!
> J
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