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| Subject: | Re: [RESOGUIT-L] Tunings and re-tuning... | | Date: | Saturday, November 3, 2007 23:32:08 (-0400) | | From: | George Rout <georout @......ca>
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Ah Richie, thank you for your note but alas, I'm lightyears 'head of ya (I'm
not being funny), I have a Dobro, first had a very nice Japanese made
Alcivar and I've been playing it for twenty or so years. When Tom Foote
chimed in on the thread I submitted about my buddy's prewar Regal built
Dobro, I think you were in there also. I have submitted a copy of our Peach
Pickers first CD with me on Dobro to RESORADIO, ALLRESORADIO THAT IS!!! I
would have probably kept the Alcivar, albeit being a round neck, I loved the
tone, but peer pressure was always asking about "you playing a round neck",
and, "is that a real Dobro"???? All my life, and I"m 70, I've played with
a round bar on the lap steel (don't play PSG), but again, peer pressure was
always challenging me about a "bullet" bar as opposed to a Stevens style, so
I went that route and a bit more, and I like the Shubb-Pearse SB2 because
it's heavier.
However, all that being said, I would prefer (but don't) to use the bullet
bar both on the Dobro and lap. Mind you, my style is not the aggressive
Jerry Douglas style, I consider the old style to be "sweeter", more haunting
then Jerry's "bullets of sound", his 1/32 notes, and as he says, "He leaves
no void in the music". That's very nice, but I don't like it, so I'm happy
with my round bar and my "haunting" sound. To me, the Hawaiian style
playing has that big advantage over ALL other string instruments, and that
is the "haunting sound of the slide". Sorry about that Jerry, but I know
you have many fans, you don't need me!!!!!
I never considered anything but the G tuning, although I've taken note of
different tunings over the years. On my lap steel interest, I have
experimented with other tunings, but for some reason or another, I don't
even use a capo on the Dobro, although I've had one since Pontious was a
pilot, in fact, I think he was just an air cadet!!!!
Among my collection of 9,000 LP's I have a great collection of Dobro music,
and yes, while it's not autographed, I have most of, if not all, Mike A's
vinyl output including "Eight String Swing", in fact I think I even have a
duplicate in error.
And with that, I'm going horizontal and get an extra hour of sleep!!!
Those poor folks in farming country like Saskatchewan don't gain an hour of
sleep!!!!!
Thanks again. Keep up the good work and interest guys.
Thank you Richie.
George
----- Original Message -----
From: <reso-man@comcast.net>
To: <resoguit-l@elistas.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: [RESOGUIT-L] Tunings and re-tuning...
> Hi George,
>
> Mandatory reso content? When I got too old to haul a double 10 steel
> guitar and a heavy amp around, I started playing reso-guitar.....and
> here's the good part......I'VE NEVER HAD SO MUCH PURE FUN IN MY LIFE!!!
>
> Even "Poob" confesses to the occasional "egg slicer" tune.....right
> Howard?
>
> I did something along the same idea as your Gibson Console dbl 8, George,
> with an old Fender 1952 double 8. A lot of "home-built" instruments in
> the early days were built as you pointed out. Back in those days, you
> "did what ya hadda do".....O;-)
>
> Back when this thread started, a new member to the list had a question on
> different tunings, and if I remember right....(a rare thing these
> days).....I jumped in with the thoughts that when you are playing an
> instrument that's tuned in most cases, to a Major Key, the G tuning being
> the most common one for most of us, then when you consider the steel bar,
> it's like playing with one finger....(the bar). The little band I play
> with does a banjo tune called Nashville Blues that's in....duh....I think
> D-min. (
> I hadda check an old set list...arghhh!) Well I used to to nuts, trying
> to play a decent break on this tune, till one day, I thought "hey, why not
> lower the second string a half tone? REVELATION!!! Now on a guitar
> that's suddenly tuned to G-minor, it's relatively easy to get a more than
> decent break, and the tune ends with a major chord, so you just reach
> behind the bar with your third finger, and gently pull UP that second
> string a half tone to put you back into a major chor
> d. Been workin' for me!!! No way am I the first to do this, I think I
> heard Josh do it on the same tune, I know I heard someone do it, and
> thought....."aha, I gotta try that."
>
> There's no hard and fast "rule" that a reso *has* to be tuned to G maj.
> The great Mike Auldridge, was one of the first, to experiment with eight
> string dobros, and ended up recording "Eight String Swing", which I have
> an autographed copy on vinyl. Theres a date on the back of the album,
> 1982. Way to go Mike!
>
> So regarding different tunings......whatever you feel works, is the way to
> go. And if you suddenly find yourself regularly appearing on Grand Ol
> Opry.....by all means......PLEASE.....feel free to share your discovery
> with the rest of us......(grins.)
>
> So George, if you haven't already got one, by all means, GET YOURSELF A
> RESO.....and have at it. You've already found the best forum on-line,
> right here!
>
> Thank you Poobah,
>
> Richie Chiasson
> www.pinehillramblers.com
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "George Rout" <georout@cogeco.ca>
>
>> While I recognize this is a reso forum, I also have a double neck guitar,
>> but with a home made changer on the outside neck. The guitar is a circa
>> 1948 Gibson Consol Grande double 8. Home made changers were quite popular
>> after the first recording came out with a Pedal Steel Guitar tune, and it
>> was Bud Isaacs "Slowly". I have never heard of the "Stringtone"
>> commercial
>> unit, but there is always someone out there with a good idea fitting the
>> "supply" requirement. My outside neck is tuned to E7, and I have it
>> preset
>> to change to A (Major) when I depress the pedal, which raises up the 2n
>> and
>> 3rd strings, and when I let go of the pedal, it is spring returned to
>> it's
>> original position. It's a nifty item of axles, threaded rods, a yoke for
>> the two strings, nuts & bolts and turnbuckles. There are two rods one
>> each
>> come up through the casting just before the strings, and each has a hold
>> drilled for the string to through (also through a piece of nylon tubing).
>> The rods push up when the pedal is depressed, and are limited to a
>> particular travel set by two bolts which can be adjusted up against the
>> bottom of the guitar. This whole mechanism was on the guitar when I
>> bought
>> it in 1953, and the work was perfomred by a machinest at Fairey Aviation
>> in
>> Dartmouth, Nova Scotia.
>> George
>>
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