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Subject:[RESOGUIT-L] RE: Story about learning the neck.
Date:Thursday, November 15, 2007  15:07:10 (-0800)
From:Matthew Snook <matt @..........com>
In reply to:Message 7937 (written by Dean Ritchison)

Well, besides the 'Steel Guitar Rag' example (what _are_ the chords for the
tune in C, Eb, Ab, etc?) someone on the nwbluegrass list posted an example
from a Steve Kaufman guitar workshop.  Nobody in the advanced guitar
workshop could play 'Happy Birthday' without an error along the way.  Simple
tune, right?  Just like Steel Guitar Rag!

The reason for the failure is memorizing of tunes instead of knowing where
the tune fits into whatever key is selected. In other words, the brute force
way of learning the Rag in G and Eb is to memorize both:

(for G)------------------------------------
--------------12--12---------------12--12--
-----------12-------------------12---------
-12--12-14------------12--12-14------------
-------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------

-------------------------------------------
--------------12---------------------------
-----------12-------14-12------------------
-12--12-14----------------14-12-----------
-------------------------------------------
--------------------------------14-12------

(for Eb)-----------------------------------
--------------8--8---------------8--8------
-----------8-------------------8-----------
-8--8-10------------8--8-10----------------
-------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------

-------------------------------------------
--------------8----------------------------
-----------8-------10-8--------------------
-8--8-10----------------10-8---------------
-------------------------------------------
--------------------------------10-8-------

Whereas the 'learn the neck' method is the same everywhere:
..(Key)
----|---|---|--|--|-|-
----3---|---|--|--|-|-
----1---|---2--|--|-|-
----5---|---6--|--|-|-
----|---|---|--|--|-|-
----1---|---2--|--|-|-
These are all the notes played in the two examples above, where the bars are
frets and the numbers are the scale degrees (same in every key).

Then the (key) is 12 for G, 8 for Eb, 13 for Ab, and so on.  This is a
pretty simple example, and you may think that it's just as easy or easier to
memorize the song in every key as to figure out what the heck is going on
above.  But then again we could use Little Rock Getaway or Sweet Georgia
Brown as the example, and once again if you know the neck, all you need to
change is the fret number indicating the (key) and you're off and running!

The bottom line is, start playing happy birthday and 'Steel Guitar Rag' (and
'Kentucky Waltz' and then 'What a Wonderful World') in every key, and pretty
soon you'll notice that you're paying more attention to relative positions
than to any memorized sequence of moves.  To me that's learning the neck.
YMMV.

Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Ritchison [mailto:deanr@ij.net] 
Subject: [RESOGUIT-L] Story about learning the neck.

What procedure or program are you suppose to use or follow to learn  
the neck? Are you suppose to learn the chords all over the neck? The  
notes all over the neck? What is it we are suppose to know in  
learning the neck?

Dean

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