| Subject: | Re: [RESOGUIT-L] RE: Story about learning the neck. | | Date: | Thursday, November 15, 2007 23:23:47 (+0000) | | From: | reso-man <reso-man @.......net>
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Wow Matt, great explanation.
You mentioned "simple tunes"?? My vote for "how many notes can you fit into a
melody" would have to include "Oh Little Town of Bethlehem". Yikes! Try it.
Tiz the season,
Richie
ps....don't ask me to play this in anything other than G. (That's why I
invented the capo!) Seriously folks, what I am trying to point out here, is when
you get to the point where you can play tunes like this one easily, then you have
***started*** to "learn the neck".
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Matthew Snook" <matt@snooksband.com>
> Well, besides the 'Steel Guitar Rag' example (what _are_ the chords for the
> tune in C, Eb, Ab, etc?) someone on the nwbluegrass list posted an example
> from a Steve Kaufman guitar workshop. Nobody in the advanced guitar
> workshop could play 'Happy Birthday' without an error along the way. Simple
> tune, right? Just like Steel Guitar Rag!
>
> The reason for the failure is memorizing of tunes instead of knowing where
> the tune fits into whatever key is selected. In other words, the brute force
> way of learning the Rag in G and Eb is to memorize both:
>
> (for G)------------------------------------
> --------------12--12---------------12--12--
> -----------12-------------------12---------
> -12--12-14------------12--12-14------------
> -------------------------------------------
> -------------------------------------------
>
> -------------------------------------------
> --------------12---------------------------
> -----------12-------14-12------------------
> -12--12-14----------------14-12-----------
> -------------------------------------------
> --------------------------------14-12------
>
> (for Eb)-----------------------------------
> --------------8--8---------------8--8------
> -----------8-------------------8-----------
> -8--8-10------------8--8-10----------------
> -------------------------------------------
> -------------------------------------------
>
> -------------------------------------------
> --------------8----------------------------
> -----------8-------10-8--------------------
> -8--8-10----------------10-8---------------
> -------------------------------------------
> --------------------------------10-8-------
>
> Whereas the 'learn the neck' method is the same everywhere:
> ..(Key)
> ----|---|---|--|--|-|-
> ----3---|---|--|--|-|-
> ----1---|---2--|--|-|-
> ----5---|---6--|--|-|-
> ----|---|---|--|--|-|-
> ----1---|---2--|--|-|-
> These are all the notes played in the two examples above, where the bars are
> frets and the numbers are the scale degrees (same in every key).
>
> Then the (key) is 12 for G, 8 for Eb, 13 for Ab, and so on. This is a
> pretty simple example, and you may think that it's just as easy or easier to
> memorize the song in every key as to figure out what the heck is going on
> above. But then again we could use Little Rock Getaway or Sweet Georgia
> Brown as the example, and once again if you know the neck, all you need to
> change is the fret number indicating the (key) and you're off and running!
>
> The bottom line is, start playing happy birthday and 'Steel Guitar Rag' (and
> 'Kentucky Waltz' and then 'What a Wonderful World') in every key, and pretty
> soon you'll notice that you're paying more attention to relative positions
> than to any memorized sequence of moves. To me that's learning the neck.
> YMMV.
>
> Matt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dean Ritchison [mailto:deanr@ij.net]
> Subject: [RESOGUIT-L] Story about learning the neck.
>
> What procedure or program are you suppose to use or follow to learn
> the neck? Are you suppose to learn the chords all over the neck? The
> notes all over the neck? What is it we are suppose to know in
> learning the neck?
>
> Dean
>
>
>
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