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| Subject: | RE: [RESOGUIT-L] An ans. to Ben Wooten's suggestion | | Date: | Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:40:42 (-0700) | | From: | LGATLIN <LGATLIN @......COM>
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Hey Thanks foe a good bit of info for me at least.
I have been trying to find out what Brand of spider &cone is in the Liberty
I purchased (mah o style sq. Neck and was advertised as a Quarterman cone.
My spider has the small spring as you have mentioned . To your knowledge
has Quarterman ever shipped with this type of spring . Mine does have the
Brass nut at bottom but the guitar sounds bad and I think it is a cone
problem
Bill Blue At Liberty will not or, has not answered my e-mails I hope he is
well
Thanks for a reply
Leon Gatlin
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From: reso-man@comcast.net [mailto:reso-man@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:01 AM
To: Resoguit-list
Subject: [RESOGUIT-L] An ans. to Ben Wooten's suggestion
Hi Ben, and list,
Don't know why "reply" or "reply all" isn't working on this thing this
morning, duh, but Ben, YES, you can really mess things up by overtightning
that screw! The newer Quarterman or perhaps more accutately "Quarterman
style" cones are somewheres in the neighborhood of .011" thick. Or maybe I
should say thin! That's considerably less than your first string, Ben, so
if you realize this, you can see it doesn't take much to mess things up.
That's why, unless you have some idea of how these reso-guitars are put
together, it's best to leave that screw alone.......unless after checking
the entire instrument for the source of buzzes and rattles, and eliminating
things like loose coverplate screws, worn out strings, (my, and probably
***the*** most common problem,) then as a last resort, yeah, I slowly
"adjust" the screw in 1/4 turn increments. For me, slowly tightening the
screw till it just touches the spider, and then continuing in those 1/4 turn
increments, usually between another
1/4 and 1/2 turn will do it, **IF** the spider is level to the cone, and
the cone is level on it's support ring, etc. etc. A very common cause of
rattles is the tail piece barely touching the coverplate. I've put thin
pieces of leather under the tailpiece with good results. I remember a
guitar once, with cheap tuning machines, that I fixed a rattle by running a
rubber band back & forth around the tuners, I think it was on the lower bass
side of the guitar. Obviously I replaced the tuners with a decent set, and
the problem was cured. Eliminate these type of rattles before you jump
right on that cone tension screw is what I'm suggesting.
This sort of "tweaking" and knowledge is what you get when you buy a guitar
that's "set up" properly. Truse me, I just "mess around" with these things
a bit, and I'm only trying to share is what's worked for me in the past. If
you ***really*** want your guitar to sound it's best.....send it to someone
like Beard, or Jr. Barber, who know these things inside and out.
What I've found helpful regarding the use of "magic marker" pens, is to put
a small dot, on both the spider leg, and the cone, and for me, I put this
dot at the bottom of the guitar, right under the tailpiece, and this guides
me in re-assembly to align the component pieces of the guitar the same way
they were when the guitar came apart.
Seems I remember in the past, some of the inexpensive "off shore"
reso-guitars having some kind of a tiny spring on the cone adjusting screw
that was supposed to keep it from turning on it's own. I forget what guitar
I saw that on, probably one of those "e-bay" things for a couple of hundred
dollars, but I remember I threw that spring away, along with the cone, the
spider, etc.
It's my opinion, that most any guitar, can really sound decent, if the
components that make up it's resonator system are of good quality. You get
what you pay for! Later, when you get into the fancy tone woods, and
inlays, and finishes, gold hardware, etc. well, ya gotta remember, (for me)
the most fun in this crazy music is the field picking jam sessions at the
festivals......where it's usually raining anyways!!!
Hope this helps, so leave that screw alone, and stay dry........O;-)
Richie
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