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Subject:[socialcredit] John Hermann's "debt virus"
Date:Tuesday, July 27, 2004  10:01:45 (-0700)
From:william_b_ryan <william_b_ryan @.....com>

"I don't believe the payment of interest creates more 
debt in a direct sense. It does however redistribute 
existing money between borrower and lender. But it 
does more than that -- it is a very effective 
mechanism for converting transaction money (M1) into 
investment money. The reality is that not all 
interest payments are quickly returned, by spending, 
into the transactive part of the economy - some of it 
is transferred to the paper economy."
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The theorem is that loans create deposits, and 
conversely, the repayment of loans cancel deposits, 
regardless whether the banker spends his profits on 
consumption--period.  There is no reality to the 
distinction between "transaction money" and 
"investment money."  The effect of a banker's 
"propensity to consume" less than unity is 
identitical to the effect of any market participant 
who spends less than his total income.
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"The velocity of monetary conversion is very rapid, 
thus around 70% of new credit is lost to the 
transaction economy each year.  And the ongoing 
depletion of transaction money requires the creation 
of new credit on an ongoing basis."
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This is pure "debt virus" theory.  I know you don't 
like the term, but that's what it is.  And you have 
blinded yourself to the absurdity.  For one thing, 
bankers do not make anything close to 70% net profit 
after interest paid to the public, and other 
expenses.  Their gross profit is substantially less 
than that, so how in the world do you get 70%?  If 
the bankers did not spend even a penny of their gross 
profits, and stopped paying expenses (thereby running 
up their offsetting debts to the public), the amount 
extracted from the "transaction economy" could not 
exceed the annual percentage rate on loans--which is 
far less than 70%.

Perhaps you are trying to say something else.
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"The 'principal' component of the excess reserves that

have been freed up is the basis for creating a future 
deposit in the name of a new borrower.  The 
'interest+fees+charges' component of the excess 
reserves is the basis for creating a demand deposit 
in the bank's name, and represents an important part 
of bank revenue.
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You are very confused.  Both principal and interest 
are transferred from some other bank, which 
represents diminished funds available to that other 
bank.  Total system reserves are not affected by such 
transactions.
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