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Subject:Re: [socialcredit]
Date:Sunday, August 1, 2004  13:24:00 (+1000)
From:Vic Bridger <socred @.......au>

 Hi Bill,
Below is a posting that i sent to "elistas" but was returned. Is the
"elistas" address functioning as I notice most messages are going through
"Yahoo"
Vic

To Wally,
 I have noticed the various postings in which orthodox economics has arisen.
It would be wise to remember what C.H. Douglas said, and quite correctly,
when he pointed out that we should never take as a beginning  to a
discussion a statement or supposition by an orthodox economist. Our starting
point is our position and we can argue from that. If you accept  a theory or
argument which is based on orthodox economics it is not  possible to make
any advancement with those who defer to it. We know from vast experience
that unless someone, economist or not, is prepared to argue on our terms it
is a useless exercise. We know that there are  none so blind as those who
cannot see. It is also true that there are  those who choose to be blind
because they have not read, studied or are  not prepared to accept the
obvious. We should endeavour to let our  protagonists know that we are not
out to convert them. They have to do this themselves. We can show the way
just like you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him drink. Much
of what I have seen over the last month or two is a lot of verbiage and very
little acquiescence in  principle.
 Vic Bridger






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