Just in passing, the League of Rights here was or is a neo-fascist
anti-semitic group and a possible implicit link was the reason one of our
previous Leaders, Bruce Beetham, persuaded us to drop the term "Political League"
and adopt "Party". When in Parliament, it was used to embarass him. What some
saw as a bad move was based on the best of reasons. Just historical info.
John R.
>From: "Wallace M. Klinck" <wmklinck@shaw.ca> >Reply-To:
socialcredit@elistas.com >To: socialcredit@elistas.com >Subject: Re:
[socialcredit] Guernsey -- Wally (referencing in Social Credit documents) >Date:
Wed, 27 Apr 2005 01:51:54 -0600 > >John, > >I agree that although it may not be
the only criterion relating to the worth of an idea or statement, referencing
should be complete and precise insofar as possible. I believe that in this
respect you would be relatively pleased with the Canadian edition of British
author John W. Hughes recent 300-page book, "Major Douglas: The Policy of a
Philosophy:" (Edmonton: Brightest Pebble Publishing, 2004) Refer:
herb@brightest-pebble.com . The book is a very attractive, professionally
produced and bound paperback which retails at about $34.95 Cdn. (I would
expect that it is, or will be, available from the Australian League of Rights
for those who might prefer to order "down under.") The printer-publisher has a
long history of producing both popular and academic works. > >As to Guernsey, I
have sent a direct request to the Guernsey Government office
enquiries@tax.gov.gg, worded as below (No reply, for what it may be worth, has
been received in the short time since this enquiry was sent.): > >Dear Sir/Madam,
> >Inasmuch as there is a considerable discussion and debate on the Internet
regarding the so-called "Guernsey Experiment", popularized by Olive and Jan
Gruibiak in their book entitled "The Guernsey Experiment", with which I am sure
you are familiar, I would like to enquire as to whether or not the story given in
the Grubiaks' book is essentially a correct account of the financial policy of
Guernsey dating back to the
early 1800's? That is to say, did the States Council, facing a need for
considerable physical improvements to the Island and a heavy debt with onerous
interest charges making further borrowing and taxation virtually impossible,
implement a policy of States Notes creation issued without debt or attached
interest charges in order to finance great improvements to the infrastucture of
the Island? Were Notes issued judiciously in this manner and retired, as I
understand the matter, with equal care by the means of import duties as these
public assets depreciated--the end results being an abundance of amenities, very
low taxation, no public debt and a lower price-level than that on the British
mainland? > >Any information which you could provide which might either confirm
or refute the above account would be greatly appreciated inasmuch as this aspect
of Guernsey's historical public
financial policy has become widely promulgated, discussed and debated on the
Internet--and setting the record straight would, I think, provide a valuable
public service. > >Yours very sincerely > >Wallace M. Klinck > ----- Original
Message ----- > From: John G Rawson > To: socialcredit@elistas.com > Sent:
Tuesday, April 26, 2005 3:53 PM > Subject: [socialcredit] Guernsey > > > I have
several times in different places expressed my despair at the looseness of so
many Socred writers in not "referencing" their quotes precisely. By contrast, the
communists have always done this superbly, even if their references may often
have been to lies told by other communists. S now we are faced with a situation
with reference to Guernsey where one side says it's a myth and the other claims
it is well documented but doesn't produce the documentation. (Sorry, Don., it's
not you, it's the original literature.) > > So we are reduced to the situation
where the "myth" exists as a hypothesis to be disproved. > > I would therefore
like our Moderator to produce his proof: > > 1. That the construction of the
Guernsey marketplace was not financed debt-free by redeemable (bonds), and, > >
2. That it was financed either on loan or by finance provided by pirates or
whatever. > > I'm not interested in a reference to a modern website. If you
looked at an (in)appropriate NZ Govt. one I am sure you would get the inference
at least that banks always lend savings. > > > John R. > >
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