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Subject:Re: [socialcredit] Re: Reply to Jessop
Date:Monday, May 2, 2005  08:09:04 (-0700)
From:Joe Thomson <thomsonhiyu @....ca>
In reply to:Message 1180 (written by Jessop Sutton)


 (Jessop wrote, in reply to Bill:-)  ... are you not overlooking that it is
not the
> legal reserve that is the basis of credit extension by the banks but the
> EXCESS RESERVES as in this paragraph from the extract?
> (ii) Suppose further that the LEGAL RESERVE RATIO that banks have to
maintain
> with the central bank against their demand deposits is equal to 20
percent.
> The additional R1000 in D's [demand deposits] created in favour of Mr X
> therefore requires a cash reserve of R200 which has to lie interest free
in
> the central bank. This leaves the Bank A with R800 in cash reserves which
can
> go out on loan. These reserves may be regarded as EXCESS RESERVES, i.e.,
> reserves in addition to those it has to or wants to maintain.
---------------------------------------------------------

(Joe replies:-)  Suppose there were a reserve ratio of 20% and a customer's
deposit were made of $ 1,000.  By what you've written above, Jessop,  I
gather the bank would retain $200 of that as a 'reserve',  and have the
other $800 available for lending out.  That seems to be the usual simple
conception most people have of how 'fractional reserve' banking works.

But what if the banker viewed the $ 1,000 AS HIS RESERVE?  And instead of
asking what 20% of $ 1,000 is, we asked what $1,000 is 20% OF?  How much
would that be?  $ 5,000, right?

The example is simplified, I know, and there are other factors, but consider
his lending the $ 800 at 5% interest.  He takes in $ 40  a year gross.  And
as well as being a very cautious and conservative banker, with his
exceptional 20% reserve, he's also a very generous one, (might as well make
this as fantastic as possible!)
He splits his $ 40 profit with you, his depositor, 50/50.  You get $ 20, or
a 2% return on your $ 1,000 savings.  And, considering the times,  you think
that's wondeful.

 But what if he instead uses the whole of your
$ 1,000 as his RESERVE?  On that same 20% reserve ratio can he not now lend
out $ 5,000?  And at that same 5% interest, how much is his gross going to
be now?       $ 250, if I'm doing my sums correctly, is it not?  Think he'll
still give you half?

Joe

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