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Subject:[socialcredit] To J Rawson re science and engineering
Date:Friday, May 20, 2005  08:07:28 (-0400)
From:Keith Wilde <keithwilde @.........ca>

 

John, I found the following text serendipitously while Googling for references on the history of technology. I think you will like it, and it expresses my point of view to near perfection. The author signs himself as "Chuck Spinney".

QUOTE: Few would argue with the proposition that the replacement of medieval scholasticism 400 years ago with the scientific method unleashed major advances in the human condition.

That triumph of facts and reason over interests and faith rests on the invention of a self-correcting cybernetic process known as the modern scientific method. Science can be thought of as a process of Observation-Hypothesis-Test. According to the eminent philosopher of science Karl Popper, the essence of scientific proof is TESTING under the Principle of Falsification. That is, an hypothesis can not be proven to be true, it can only be proven to be false by banging its predictions against the real world.

For a scientific hypothesis to have meaning, therefore, it must be constructed in such a way that it is possible to falsify it by rigorous testing. Under these logical conditions, any test that confirms a hypothesis establishes "truth" on a conditional basis only. The conditional truth is always subject to further testing, elaboration, or possible falsification. The result is a gradually expanding edifice of conditional truth punctuated on rare occasions by stunning shifts in world views, known popularly as scientific revolutions or paradigm shifts, to use a much abused term.

… Under the Principle of Falsification and the Theory of Conditional Truth, science and the evolution of knowledge can be thought of, paradoxically, as a creative search process for identifying what does not work.

Engineering is a similar self-correcting search process, but in this case, it can be viewed as a trial-and-error process of Observation - Design - Test. The emphasis on design gives engineering a slightly different motivating force, even though its method is the same as that of science. In contrast to science, Engineering can be thought of as a creative search process for what works in the sense of combining existing scientific principles (conditional truths) and technologies into new products that satisfy or create human needs. Engineering can be thought of as the practical application of the scientific method, where a "design" replaces a hypothesis. The principle of falsification takes the form of realistic testing of a prototype design. Once this approach determines a design that is viable in the real world, production resources can then be committed with relatively low economic or performance risk.

Tests that are biased to prove success violate the principle of falsification and the self-correcting essence of the scientific method. In the case of science, the result is quackery. In the case of engineering, problems get suppressed and products go into production prematurely with major design flaws, with the end result being products that don't work or incur excessive costs to make them work. END OF QUOTE

Now, since policy-making is all about design, it is inevitable that the flavor of engineering is stronger in political economy than that of science. It is undeniable that the economic "theories" or "models" incorporated (Incarnated?) by consciously established policies are a deductive apparatus and can only accidentally be better than the assumptions on which they are based. There really isn’t a lot of scope for science (as described above) in economics other than poking holes in the realism of the assumptions on which the deductive apparatus is built. That is what Douglas did, of course, and then built a new deductive apparatus on his more realistic assumptions. In a previous comment to you I noted the near impossibility of testing economic theories by looking at current realities and assuming them to be the consequence of particular policy decisions. The irony of Social Credit is that Douglas’ disciples make a great issue about the importance of inductive science, but their efforts to promote his ideas and policy are almost solely deductive. The only exception I can recall is the one posted here a couple of days ago by Michael Lane.

Incidentally, I found the statement quoted above while trying to find an excuse for Douglas’ apparent ignorance of the history his own profession, as manifested in the Dunedin address.

Keith Wilde

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