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Subject:Re: [socialcredit] Re: "Production and Distribution" by C. H. Douglas -- Wally -- responds
Date:Saturday, July 2, 2005  10:45:36 (-0600)
From:Wallace M. Klinck <wmklinck @....ca>

Bill,

I don't believe that the symbol to which you refer has any significance.  It 
does not appear on later issues of "The Fig Tree" where it has been replaced 
by the logo of the Social Credit Secretariat.  The latter may be seen on Vic 
Bridger's website, viz., the Social Credit School of Studies and this is the 
same symbol which appears on the Secretariat's "Statement of Constitution." 
This logo does contain defined meaning with respect to Social Credit.

I think it is unrealistic and dangerous to employ the term "anti-Semitism" 
because the term has no objective meaning in the real world and is simply a 
dialectic linguistic weapon in the murky world of psychopolitics.  That is, 
it serves in the Marxist "thesis/antithesis" duality as useful in obtaining 
a predetermined "synthesis." Primarily, the term is used to deflect from 
meaningul comment in debate and to detract from logical argumentation by 
branding one's opponents as irrational.  It is employed in the process of 
character assassination and is quite crucial and necessary to the strategy 
of those who set it up as a "straw man" and then set about attacking it. 
This is a tactic which was employed as a matter of policy and practice by 
the Bolsheviks and is probably derived from a certain school of logic which 
justifies saying anything that furthers one's objectives.  This latter, of 
course, involves the arrogant assumption that one is absolutely and 
infallibly correct--which assumption allows any means fair and foul to seek 
one's ends.  Briefly, this approach represents the principle that the "end 
justifies the means," which attitude reflects pharisaic self-righteousness 
and intolerance.  If people are "embarrassed" by that objectively 
meaningless, but derogatory and damaging, propaganda label, "anti-Semitism," 
it is because this is the intended result and after a long period of 
incessant "brainwashing" they have been psychologically conditioned to be 
so--as part of established policy.  Cultural degradation would seem to be 
one of the main objectives in that established or independent cultures 
provide an insurmountable obstacle to establishment of a world state.  This 
is, as I understand the matter, part of what Douglas meant when he referred 
to society as having been "hypnotized."


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William B. Ryan" <w_b_ryan@yahoo.com>
To: <socialcredit@elistas.com>; <ownership@cog.kent.edu>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 9:04 AM
Subject: [socialcredit] Re: "Production and Distribution" by C. H. 
Douglas -- Wally


> This document is interesting in several respects.  The
> same Fig Tree issue contains the Guernsey fable that
> you sent the other day.  The final paragraph of his
> essay indicates that Douglas had become a greenbacker
> by 1938.*
> http://www.geocities.com/w_b_ryan/douglas-1938.txt
>
> The New Age was publishing discussion about the
> Protocols around the time that Douglas became
> associated with that journal.
>
> So fabricated tales seemingly relating historical
> events undoubtedly influenced his subsequent
> anti-semitism and eventual greenbackism.
>
> Which should tell us something about the power of
> propaganda in the hands of skillful practitioners of
> that art.
> -
>
> * Assuming that the primary objective of the economic
> system is economic comfort and security, this
> distribution of purchasing power would be likely to
> follow three main channels:
>
> (1) The abolition of taxation (by the financing of
> Government services out of the National Credit).
>
> (2) The distribution of a National Dividend, both
> directly and by a system of compensated prices.
>
> (3) The allocation of regulated credits for
> production.
> ------------------------------------
>
> Question: In an accompanying email you sent me the
> photocopy of this Fig Tree issue in PDF.  Do you know
> anything about the symbol from the front page that
> I've appended below--its origin or intended meaning?
> -
>
>
> --- "Wallace M. Klinck" <wmklinck@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> Here is an article by C. H. Douglas which is
>> provided as a contribution to the current List
>> discussion:
>>
>> THE FIG TREE Quarterly, Editor: C. H. Douglas,
>> Associate Editor: Miles Hyatt
>> No. 10, SEPTEMBER, 1938
>>
>> CONTENTS
>> The Psychological Causes of War--The Editor
>> Bankers are Responsible--Miles Hyatt
>> Murmurings in Myopia--V. J. Cobbetson
>> The Will to Power--J. Scott Kyle
>> Means and Ends--Tudor Jones
>> Political Strategy--H. E.
>> Production and Distribution--C. H. Douglas
>> The New Civilisation--Charles Jones
>> The Perfect Crime--G. R. Robertson
>> A Message Mutilated--W. Lebel
>> Bombshell or Bagatelle?--Dr. Frotti
>> A Study of Money--John V. Reid
>> The Guernsey Market House Scheme--D. M. Sherwood
>> Verses--Geoffrey Dobbs, B. W. Kitching, Herbert
>> Bluen
>> Reviews
>>
> [snipped]
>
>
>
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