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Subject:Re: RE: [socialcredit] Solomon Islands from Electronz - To Kenneth Palmerton
Date:, July 31, 2005  23:44:23 (+0200)
From:cymric <cymric @.......nz>

Howdy Dan,
If a S.C.er calls fractional reserve banking a curse, how is that promoting
Fr.Re. banking?
S.C. doesnt take away the power of controlling the volumn of credit nor its
cancellation from the banks and give it to the government either.  If you have no
knowledge of SC dont make judgements that contradict the truth, as that simply
debases your own beliefs when you try to promote them.
Your motives in what you seek and ends are the same os ours, but as can be seen
there are many different perspectives about what the core of the problems are and
also therefore different focus points that form the starting points of trying to
deal to them.
In SC the gold is the people in freedom.  Our philosophy is based on tangible,
animate entities know as the individual humans living in society in such a way
that society is organic not an organisation.  Tangible inanimate substances like
gold cannot rule over the above.  The fractional reserve banking system is a
sibling of the gold system before it, same traits as its dad.
Someone claimed on a forum recently that at the conclusion of World War 11 that
the debt of the US was greater than all the known gold reserves. We are for a
sound social organic democracy, not a sound gold money system.
We start from opposite ends.  We effectively lay the constitutional foundation
first upon which a money system is designed to fulfill the policy of our
philosophy.
Von Mises comes the opposite way.  He designs a money system upon which it is
presumed the good life will follow.  THats where most people struggle to
appreciate what SC is really about because they have the same Von Mises
disposition that if you have a 'good financial/ economic system'the good life
should atomatically follow.I guess you read the article on the Von Mises site
about Nixon.  That shows you clearly how people are deceived because they dont
appreciate that all policy follow from the philosophy, hidden or in plane site.
American Republicans believe they have sound based policy and Bush today is
carrying out Democrat poliy just as the articles showed Nixon was doing it and in
fact it started around the First World War.  No philosophical rudder the boat
will go where those who have one take it for you.

The matter Ken P raised about the Liberals is related to the Nixon article.  The
British Fabians, the International Socialits home base, is the author of
what has happened in politics in the US, well covered by Dr John Coleman in a
book called One World Order.  The Liberals are merely the slower route to
socialism and their strategic policy for progrees in the US was creeping
parallysis - liberalism, particularly inside the Republicans and its christian
influence.

To get an insite into how deep these people go, the free market is also linked
to the Fabian International Socialist, from Friedman a Hayek disciple, back
through Hayek of the London School of Economics ( Fabian) who next went to
Chicago School which led the ideological charge into free market revolution, but
prior to all that Hayek worked with Von Mises!  And I know that Mises converts
hate socialism.  Look at the fruit ( policy) and you see the tree ( philosophy). 
"There is nothing hid that wont be revealed" - Jesus of Nazareth.

Peter H 
 


 
"Daniel Morin" <dan@danmorin.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear Peter,
> > There is no common ground between Douglas and Von Mises
> > outside the recognition of the fractional reserve banking
> > system as being a curse on mankind.
> 
> So why promoting fractional reserve banking?  I believe fractional
reserve
> banking is fraud.  Some individuals believe politicians should control
the
> money supply instead of the banks.  Instead of having a "Federal Bank"
(or
> "Federal Reserve") would have a "Federal Government" printing money. 
That
> would be the same, at best.  Politicians are much more short-sighted
than
> bankers, and would cause havoc in the economy by printing excessive
money.
> The solution is to have a stable money supply, something that cannot be
> created out of thin air.  Gold is a good candidate for sound money.
> 
> Sincerely,

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