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Hi
Martin , Michael, Et Ali, (Don Bethune
responding)
Responses from two lifelong Social Crediters , including one who
also has past MP and legal
"silk"status , at such a superficial level, is astonishing and
disappointing. Well do I remember when Martin was on a speaking tour of
Godzone , personally hearing him metaphorically tearing strips of the
politicians for allowing the racket of banking to continue, in which they
usurped the prerogative of sovereign governments to create out of nothing the
figures in their books as their own de facto money, and lent it to cash
strapped businesses, and even governments who were so ignorant , or into bed
with the finance industry, that they didn't know what was going on. It was
right on the button; galvanizing the audience with real facts, and saying what
we suspected but doubted we would ever hear it said publicly. (Not long
after that the Social Credit Party reached 31.6% of support
in the Herald-NRB Political Polls under the dynamic leadership of the late
Bruce Beetham; who I had helped introduce to, and worked with, for Social
Credit.)
However, with your recognition of the money supply being just
"figures" owned by the private banking
system, predominantly in the ownership of a few super rich families
in France, England and USA, your denigration and writing off,of the
"Swiss Initiative" with its several mechanisms which are unique in
the world in controlling the plethora of sleazy and technically
corrupt politicians , simply on the grounds of allegedly "screwing the rest of
the world", acting as a bank for corrupt dictators, and
acquiring nasty assets out of the 2nd World War.
I
should not have to remind either of you that the seeds of WW 2 were sown
in the Empire
Preferences Conference in Ottawa circ 1930-31, where the
"Sliding Scale Tariff Agreements" were signed for the specific purpose of
closing Empire markets to Japan and Germany, by the use of sky high tariffs
against them. Ironically I use the book, "Wealth, Want &
War" ( by Hattersley) when wanting a text that
details the relationship between those 3 phenomena , so I
should be able to take it that you neither consider War as an Act of God,
nor could provide any valid evidence to justify Switzerland getting
involved with it when a public referendum had specifically re-affirmed her
national neutrality policy. Nor could you reasonably argue
that she should have refused to continue to act as banker for
at least the European participants.
But
stepping aside from those trivia from previous decades, what
miniscule part of the very high Swiss standard of living could you suggest is
attributable to "screwing the rest of the world"
?
And
surely , with London and NY, then Shanghai & Beijing all
having left Zurich behind in the world banking stakes, you aren't
suggesting that Zurich was a dominant player in building up
the massive and inhuman "Third World Debt", are you ?
Even if she were a major participant in that scandalous racket, even
for a client before the Bar, could you seriously submit that such a ground
could justify avoiding serious discussion of a mechanism to put a
hobble on politicians ?
Recent
Opinion Polls, especially one in Australia, have reported on their
"Trustability Index" that "Politicians' are on the very bottom rung, EVEN
below "Used Car Dealers". In the assessment of yours truly, and most
of my Electronz contacts, the final straw has been going into
Iraq on the basis of false and fabricated information, contrary to
International Law, when, if the public had been allowed to debate the
issues , they would never have approved it. It is quite relevant
that a Reuters Report of 2nd instant says that 63% of
Americans believe the U.S. is too quick to go to war, and 75% of
respondents have "major concerns" that those initiatives are
generating international hate , particularly among Moslems, and thereby
increasing the potential for further Terrorist disasters in
USA. You don't have to be an Einstein to see
that.
Another report mentions that an independent group of investigators
in Iraq believe that so far over 100,000 Iraqis, mainly
civilians, have been killed since the initial "Shock &
Awe" was launched. That is about 100 times greater
than the U.S. led Alliance death toll. Do you and other
participants in this List not believe that even if "BCIR" has
the potential to prevent just one exercise in international carnage
like that, it would justify serious support ? Furthermore, when the
existing financial racket can be shown as a generator of international strife
and wars, do you not think we should concentrate on exposing and remedying that
malfunction, at a higher priority than debating the number of
holidays per year enjoyed by serfs in the Middle Ages ?
Don
Bethune signs off saying, "I rest my case" - provocatively, as usual
!
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Isn't the answer that they do very well for their citizens
by screwing the rest of the world? The people of third world dictatorships,
whose rulers invest their loot there, in particular. Let alone some
rather nasty involvement with assets coming from World War II.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 6:17
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Subject: [socialcredit] Switzerland -
dumb question
If Switzerland is
so great for its citizens, how does this square with its being one of the
world's biggest financial centers?
Michael
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