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Subject:Re: [socialcredit] Book review ~ Joe replys to Ken Palmerston
Date:Thursday, August 4, 2005  16:14:00 (+0100)
From:Kenneth Palmerton <kenpalmerton @................uk>

In-Reply-To: <000701c593f6$5fe4df80$bad44246@cc.shawcable.net>
Hi Joe.

Mondragon is a most interesting social movement that grew out of the 
devastation in the Basque region of Spain, in the aftermath of their civil 
war.

The original driving forces were a Roman Catholic Priest, and the 
Anarchist political movement. Yes I know, strange bedfellows :-))

To a hardline and blinkered Social Creditor it might seem that there is 
nothing of common interest. Looking deeper there was, there was an 
understanding of work as the creator of basic wealth, and the 
understanding, that is not so easily recognised, that the availability of 
money was vital. They created their own bank. Which the literature seems 
to play down. I wonder why :-)

>From this bank money came, under circumstances that I do not fully 
understand, due to my having no Spanish, let alone Basque, or a friend to 
translate for me. But I can find no reference at all to debt :-)

This money was paid to people to enable them to "Buy" a job, by which they 
mean that groups could come together to plan and execute a plan of 
productive enterprise, be it fishing, engineering, construction or 
commercial activity of any nature that firstly the community needed, or 
that they could trade with for what they did not have.

The Socialists HATED it. Give people DIRECT power over their own 
production. That's heresy :-(((

Schools, Hospitals, and a whole range of infrastructure projects were 
undertaken. Including eventually a College that played an important part 
in the development of the idea. Including a place for retraining for those 
enterprises that found their chosen product, or service, was no longer 
viable.

To my knowledge there have been very few company failures. I do know of 
one fishing co-operative that failed, but I do not know the details.

There is much more to this, and a great deal written. All of it, in my 
opinion, interesting to those who wish to study differing models of what 
you actually do in a community, when the insanity of our existing monetary 
system is shown up for what it is.

Fraudulent.

Ken. 

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