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Subject:Re: Fw: RE: [socialcredit] Questions for Ed Dodson
Date:Tuesday, August 23, 2005  13:41:46 (+1200)
From:W. McGunnigle <wmcgunn @.........nz>
In reply to:Message 2535 (written by Martin Hattersley)

Hi Martin
              I tried "unsolicited mail not wanted" on my mailbox but it didn't work. American Express have just offered me a gold card up to $50000 at a mere 15%pa.  Quite ridiculous for a pensioner like me. I know how you feel. I pay cash for all I get these days. If I can't afford it cash I don't get it. Glad you like the levity. Will go back to more serious matters shortly after we have finished the election campaign in New Zealand.
      Bill Mc G
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: RE: [socialcredit] Questions for Ed Dodson

A beautiful story!
 
Now tell me how to stop all these credit card companies propositioning me with enormous lines of credit that I don't want. I keep telling them so in their prepaid envelopes, but they don't seem to listen!
 
Martin Hattersley, 1970 10123 99St.,
EDMONTON  AB  Canada T5J 3H1
Phone (780)423-4081:Fax (780)425-5247
e-mail: jmartinh@shaw.ca,
hattersleyjm@interbaun.com
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: RE: [socialcredit] Questions for Ed Dodson

Hi Martin
              It is not often I get a chance to introduce a small amount of light-hearted comment to our forum, but your recent comments about bankers enables me to forward to you all an apparently true story about a credit card company who carried on billing  a customer after she had died because she had not closed her credit account. The attachment covers a conversation between her nephew and the company when he pointed out to them the futility of their efforts to screw arrears payments from someone who no longer existed.
        I can't help but think it has a pointed lesson to us all about the present monetary credit system. I hope you all enjoy it.
 Bill Mc Gunnigle
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: RE: [socialcredit] Questions for Ed Dodson

I was thinking rather of putting together a demonstration game that would teach Georgists how important the monetary system is in influencing what happens in the economy, and remind Social Crediters that, whether in rents and site values, or in the issue of a monetary medium, "the private monopolization of publicly created values" is an matter that needs to be controlled in the interest of the community.
 
I once revised the rules of Monopoly so that the Banker was an actual banker, charging interest on loans, and playing favorites among the players to help one and hinder another, all with the idea of becoming the monopolist himself. It was the most depressing game I have ever played, as the economy spiralled into depression, with cut price property sales, and everything becoming controlled by the bank.
 
What was most interesting, when I tried this on another occasion with a group from Mensa, was the gleam of revelation that spread on people's faces when they completed the accounting form that created a bank loan, and learned for the first time how money came into being!
 
Martin Hattersley, 1970 10123 99St.,
EDMONTON  AB  Canada T5J 3H1
Phone (780)423-4081:Fax (780)425-5247
e-mail: jmartinh@shaw.ca
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 2:11 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: RE: [socialcredit] Questions for Ed Dodson

Martin Hattersley wrote

"George, of course, did not go into the money system in any depth at all. But
the game of "Monopoly" (founded on an earlier "Landlord Game" designed to
illustrate Georgist principles), certainly illustrates the tendency of the
rental of sites to concentrate ownership and bankrupt the majority of
society. Varying the rules so that the Bank is paid rent by those who land
on mortgaged property might make the bridge we need between George and
Douglas."
 
Mr. Hattersley, I certainly have wanted to see a bridge between Social Credit and Georgist thought, and I'm happy to see an advocate of Social Credit suggest where that bridge may be situated.  I wonder if you could clarify and expand upon the underlined portion of your comments above.  Are you possibly suggesting some kind of cooperative land banking such as has been proposed by Shann Turnbull at COG?
 
Regards
Alan Avans 
 
 


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