| Subject: | [socialcredit] seed-death | | Date: | Tuesday, August 23, 2005 13:43:17 (EDT) | | From: | Triumphofthepast <Triumphofthepast @...com>
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A note in Errico-Lamsa says that this is discussed at length in their commentary to John, and since I have recently ordered that, I will share it with you when I get it.
Can you not think of other ways Jesus' death could be a manifestation of love and forgiveness than as a propitiatory sacrifice?
Ways that would make his life and his death more of a piece?
Saying God endures the necessary suffering to propitiate his own anger only muddies the waters. Mercy, to me, means there IS no necessary suffering, no propitiation. The forgiver doesn't wreak anger on his own head, he sets anger aside. If it can be set aside, it is not necessary.
This is an orthodox doctrine, but I wonder if you would have come up with it reading the Gospels without preconception? Does the seed in the ground image, for example, work for or against the idea of a propitiation?
If Jesus' death is a propitiatory sacrifice, and his life and death are of a piece, then the way he lived his LIFE is a propitiatory sacrifice. If so, tell me how.
Michael
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