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If I were wiser I wouldn't let myself
comment on religious matters on this list...but I just can't resist this.
There is a perfectly orthodox and older perspective on the at-one-ment
than wesstern christianity's near-apostate reduction of Christ's
sacrifice to propitiation of acts offensive to a wrathful God. It's called
"Christus Victor". It's about Christ's victory over death and over fallen
principalities and powers. Christ's death had absodamnlutely nothing
to do with satisfying a wrathful God. That God doesn't exist, and if he did
he certainly wouldn't be worth our praise and worship.
Fortunately, that's not the loving
Heavenly Father that I know, albeit through a glass darkly.
Regards
Alan Avans
Michael wrote:"A note in
Errico-Lamsa says that this is discussed at length in their commentary to John,
and since I have recently ordered that, I will share it with you when I get
it.
Can you not think of other ways Jesus' death could be a manifestation
of love and forgiveness than as a propitiatory sacrifice?
Ways that would
make his life and his death more of a piece?
Saying God endures
the necessary suffering to propitiate his own anger only muddies the
waters. Mercy, to me, means there IS no necessary suffering, no
propitiation. The forgiver doesn't wreak anger on his own head, he sets
anger aside. If it can be set aside, it is not necessary.
This is
an orthodox doctrine, but I wonder if you would have come up with it reading the
Gospels without preconception? Does the seed in the ground image, for
example, work for or against the idea of a propitiation?
If Jesus' death
is a propitiatory sacrifice, and his life and death are of a piece, then the way
he lived his LIFE is a propitiatory sacrifice. If so, tell me
how."
Michael
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