| Subject: | [socialcredit] Re: Fundamental Truth | | Date: | , August 28, 2005 03:40:34 (+0200) | | From: | cymric <cymric @.......nz>
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I find the history in current topics not only interesting but significant, as
indicated by the view that traditions retain a connection with the past. But the
interpretation of the past is important, because as has been claimed, to control
the past is to control the future.
I believe that the origin of seed-money by despotic god-kings has the same
origin as the "official state cult" and worship of Emporer Pontifex Maximus,
which of course is ancient Babylon. The Traditions of The Elders that corrupted
the true meaning of scriptures which Jesus went around teaching to set people
free from an 'official state cult' also originated in Babylon during the
captivity.
When Constantine made 'Christianity' the state religion the existing one which
roots originated in Babylon merely changed their labels etc to suit the law.
The New Covenant was instituted by God not any state and labels may be
meaningless.
When Jesus was tempted, one of the temptations was the offer of control of the
kingdoms of the world, if he would bow down and worship the one tempting him who
controlled them. The greatest kingdom then was Rome and its ruler was Pontifex
Maximus. Jesus rejected the offer ( effectievly to become Emporer- Pontifex
Maximus )in exchange for abombinable idolatory. Nothing Constantine did reversed
Christs decision or the issues involved.
This temptation to the Second Adam ( Jesus) was a parallel of that of the first
Adam who yealed his inheritance to the world as it should have been to the one
offering the opportunity to become like God in all knowledge and its power, so he
could have the mind of God if you like.
After the death and resurrection the title deeds returned to the Second Adam,
the Seed of the Woman bruised the head of the Serpant, and the only true God-King
that the other tradition feigns, will return and replace the kigdoms of the world
now about to form a one world govt. Daniel said a stone ( kingdom) made without
hands will destroy this Babylonian extension down through history and so why
would Jesus accept an offer of control of what he was going to destroy in time?
The Babylonian traditions are also preserved through secret societies.
Peter H
"William B. Ryan" <w_b_ryan@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Since the time of Constantine, it was the practice to
> the time of the Reformation, in Protestant churches,
> to Vatican II in Roman Catholic churches, for the
> priest to stand with the people facing the back of the
> church during the consecration of the Bread and Wine.
> The practice was the incorporation of the court ritual
> of the official Augustinian state cult into Christian
> worship. The priest and people were symbolically
> facing where the Emperor would have sat, often
> elevated behind a screen.* It was the practice of the
> official cult's temples throughout the empire, now
> converted to Christianity, which in the time of
> Constantine were the majority of Christian churches.
>
> I don't believe there was anything wrong with the
> priest facing the back of the church. Nor do I think
> there is anything inherently wrong with everyone
> sitting or standing around the table, as Jesus and his
> Disciples did at the Last Supper.
>
> They are traditions; to the extent we change them, we
> lose our historical roots, which is not necessarily
> bad, but also not necessarily good. It very much
> depends on the circumstances and the reasons for the
> change.
>
> One reason I am an Episcopalian is that I admire the
> fact that the denomination preserves many of the old
> traditions, in outward form, which keeps us in touch
> with our ancestors, at the same time defending the
> substance of what is important to the Christian faith.
>
> Now, the Doctrine of the Trinity, though introduced
> into Christianity by philosophers from the official
> state cult, is something quite different and far more
> important than priests wearing or not wearing
> vestments derived from the dress of upper class
> Romans--for it tells us fundamental truth about the
> nature of God.
>
> Stripped of its partisan Christian connotations, it
> should be useful to everyone regardless of religious
> affiliation.
> -
>
> *The priests were probably behind the screen with the
> Emperor, which is preserved in the liturgy of the
> Orthodox churches. The people would have seen
> fleeting images of movement behind the screen, heard
> the incantations, and smelled the smoke from the
> burning of incense.
>
>
>
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