| Subject: | [socialcredit] The mind of God | | Date: | Saturday, August 27, 2005 09:01:01 (-0600) | | From: | Chick Hurst <chickhurst @....ca>
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The mind of God
This is a good topic. Before we can discuss anything in relation to our
belief, we must first of all determine what that belief is. Before we can
determine the mind and mindset of God, we must first determine, is there a
God.
Just because your book or my book says this or that about God, or that this
person or that was God, or what that person or God said, does not make it
so. You or I could make the same claims as is claimed in the holy book.
Just because there is this number of people that believe in this God because
of what the teacher/Priest says or because that is what the book says, or
that number of people believes in that God, because that is what those
teachers say or that book says, does not mean that there is a God. That
makes it a belief. That belief therefore must be founded on an assumption.
Assuming this to be true then this is what is said and that being said, that
is true. Assumptions, perceptions and belief.
If we are to agree with the wisdom of Kierkegaard, "a person cannot possibly
seek what he knows, and, just as impossibly, he cannot seek what he does not
know, for what he knows he cannot seek, since he knows it, and what he does
not know he cannot seek,
because, after all, he does not even know what he is supposed to seek," as
Jim points out, then we also can not lay claim to my belief or your belief
as being the truth, or the only truth. Therefore, the truth to which you or
I may lay claim to, is and can only be assumed to be the truth, from your or
my perspective.
About ten years or so ago, a wealthy American businessman by the name of
Templeton, and an extremely strong Christian, made an offer to anyone in the
world, Ten Million Dollars, if they could prove to him, and he was prepared
to make it public, that there is a God. To date no one has ever even
attempted to make the claim, let alone to prove the claim.
Jim says: "In other words, the human mind has no way of obtaining the truth.
If the
human mind was already in truth, then there would be no need to seek it
(i.e. we would know it all already), but if we are in error, and seek the
truth, then this again is an impossibility because we don't even know where
to begin."
Jim asks; "Can the truth be learned?
Deng Ming Dao says about Truth: "There are three levels of truth;
Experience, reasoning, and knowing. All other assertions should be
rejected.
The first type of truth is experience. Once you have experienced something,
you know it. No person can persuade you otherwise.
The second type is truth gained by reasoning. In this case, the truth
cannot be immediately verified because the subject is too small (like atomic
particles) or too large (like the movement of planets through time) or too
abstract (like ideas). Something may be true, but its truth is borne out by
analysis rather than physical testing.
Either of these two types of truths has a range of validity. They are
relative. Therefore, though truths are superior to falsehood, opinions,
beliefs, and superstition, they each have limits. There is a third type of
truth that is different from these two.
This is a way of direct spiritual knowing. Wholly internal, this mode is
the direct experiencing of truth through the opening of higher faculties.
Meditation gives one perceptions of absolute certainty. There is no doubt
of need of other investigations; this knowledge is beyond words,
descriptions, and rationalization. In fact one must be careful not to let
the fruits of one's meditation pass into the realm of rationalization. This
will subject you to the relativity of external truths and ruin your
confidence. To avoid doubts and conflicting opinions, followers of Tao keep
their revelations secret. Then what is known directly is absolutely yours."
Assuming that history has been recorded well and that the science and the
research on human behaviour hold some validity, we find that the human being
does have an inherent element that must believe in something beyond the
self. Therefore most humans seem to be on a life long quest of
spirituality. Some stop at a founded religion and others go on.
If we take the wisdom of Kierkegaard and that of the words attributed to
Jesus, "judge not that ye may not be judged," we then have no claim to our
belief being better or more worthy than any other belief. Therefore we have
no right to condemn others in their religion or their religion in the world.
Therefore we also have no right, because we probably no little or nothing of
that religion or that person's thought process, nor where they are at on
their spiritual journey, we can not say that we have to be of this spiritual
belief or that religious perspective in order to understand this theory or
that theory.
That being said, what Jim presents, "This is the necessity for the concept
of the Trinity - God, or the Word, made flesh. The Truth enters time and
shows us the way towards the Truth (God).
Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life."
The man/God - Jesus - is a necessity to bring man to God. Without Jesus,
and the trinity, man is lost searching for the Truth," can only be assumed
to be true if you are Jim or of the same mindset as Jim.
Chick
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The mind of God
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