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Hi Bill:
Kierkegaard's whole philosophy is based in
paradox. Kierkegaard discovered philosophically what Godel discovered
mathematically, and Godel's theorem is a paradox.
I agree that Godel's theorem states that any
logical system is incomplete, because in order to prove the logical system
itself true, it is necessary to build another logical system, but then again,
that logical system is also incomplete, and it is necessary to build another
system........ad infinitum. In other words, the only thing that can be
proven with absolute certainty is that nothing can be proven with absolute
certainty.
Descartes tried to prove the certainty of his
existence with his famous statement, "I think therefore I am." However;
his conclusion is in his premise for as soon as he states the word "I.." as in
"I am" he assumes "I exist".
Hegel was a contemporary of Kierkegaard, and was
also his adversary. Kierkegaard said that Hegel would have been the most
brilliant man alive if it wasn't for the fact that he forgot he was a human
being, and this made him absurd. Hegel developed a very complete theory of
the universe that was based on logic, but what Hegel forgot is that while his
system was complete, the creator of that system, Hegel himself, was
incomplete.
Kierkegaard's paradox is not solved by an "infinite
series of logical systems", because infinity is not a number (or totality), but
is a limit (i.e you never get there). Kierkegaard's paradox is solved by
virtue of the fact that existence precedes essence. Why does God
exist? Why not? There is no reason for existence, it
simply is......
Logical systems are incomplete because the creators
of those systems are themselves incomplete. Man is always in the process
of completing himself. This is why our knowledge is always incomplete, and
the reason for an immanent God. An immanent God is an offence to
reason. It is a paradox meant to teach us that life begins in paradox, and
the concepts of consciousness and free will are themselves a
paradox.
What this all means is that the Truth is not known,
but lived. Jesus said, "I am the way the truth and the life". In
other words, Jesus=truth=life, or Jesus' way of life is the truth. The
truth comes through belief in a paradox which requires an absolute leap of
faith, and living one's life by being true to oneself. Self-deceit is what
Sartre called "bad faith".
Take care,
Jim
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Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [socialcredit] The Mind of
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> I have not read Kierkegaard, and know little about
>
him. So I shall not comment beyond this quote (you?)
> attributed to
him. It is put in the form of a
> paradox:-
>
> "A
person cannot possibly seek what he knows, and,
> just as impossibly, he
cannot seek what he does not
> know, for what he knows he cannot seek,
since he knows
> it, and what he does not know he cannot seek,
because,
> after all, he does not even know what he is supposed
> to
seek."
>
> A paradox I have often referred to, I'm sure you
>
remember, is Zeno's paradox of Hercules and the
> Tortoise. Zeno
"proved" through the geometrical
> mathematics available in his time that
Hercules could
> never overtake and pass the Tortoise, yet we know
that
> he will overtake and pass the Tortoise. Zeno knew it
>
too. What Zeno demonstrated was the inadequacy or
> "incompleteness"
of the mathematics of his time, and
> inferentially "proved" that a more
complete
> mathematics necessarily existed awaiting discovery.
>
Historically, that did not occur until some 2500 years
> after Zeno
presented his paradox, in the formulation
> of calculus by Newton and his
colleagues, with time
> incorporated as constituent element.
>
> The resolution of Kierkegaard's paradox occurred with
> Goedel's
Theorem and its extrapolation into the
> Inclusive Logistic
Progression.
> ----------------
>
> "Reason alone cannot find
the truth as is demonstrated
> by Godel's theorem: The only thing
that can be proven
> with absolute certainty is that nothing can be
proven
> with absolute certainty...If one asks that one prove
>
something beyond all doubt, then Godel's theorem
> states that is an
impossibility and the question
> itself becomes absurd."
>
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> -------------------------
> This
misconstrues Goedel's Theorem. I'll state the
> theorem as
succinctly as possible: Any logistic
> system that is complete
necessarily contains
> contradiction; any logistic system that does
not
> contain contradiction is necessarily incomplete.
>
>
The qualification I would insert here is that the
> theorem applies to
"any logistic system" of finite
> order.
>
> This has been
extrapolated into the Inclusive Logistic
> Progression.
>
>
From my post the other day:-
>
> "The human mind functions
logistically, through a
> process combining metaphor with observation.
When
> observation conflicts with metaphor, then a new
> metaphor is
invented to bring sense to the new
> observation. This does not
necessarily invalidate the
> earlier metaphor...
>
> "There
is a true statement X which may be deduced from
> logistic system A, but
there is a true statement Y
> which cannot be deduced from A. There is an
INCLUSIVE
> logistic system B which can deduce both X and Y, but
>
there is a true statement Z which cannot be deduced
> from B. There is an
inclusive system C which can
> deduce X, Y and Z, etc...The theoretical
limit to the
> progression is the set of all possible inclusive
>
systems, which is infinitely large."
>
> I will add here that the
set of all possible inclusive
> logistic systems is the metaphysical
equivalent to the
> Mind of God.
>
> It is therefore
demonstrated through extrapolation
> from what we know about how the human
mind works that
> God necessarily exists though outside the context
of
> time (the theoretical limit to the infinite
> progression),
which does not preclude the possibility
> that God intervenes in human
affairs from time to
> time, if not continuously.
>
> Just as
Zeno proved the existence of calculus but had
> not yet discovered it, we
have demonstrated the
> necessary existence of God though not yet
discovered
> Him.
>
> We strive to be on the path to
discovery and concede
> we will never quite get there within the
constraints
> of the finitude of time.
> -
>
>
>
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