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Subject:Re: [socialcredit] Joe on Wal-Mart, Discount and CIR
Date:Thursday, September 1, 2005  06:59:42 (-0400)
From:Keith Wilde <keithwilde @.........ca>
In reply to:Message 2670 (written by Joe Thomson)

I have no disagreement with anything you say below, Joe, either the history or the ideal.  But there are also some policies that are better than others, even though the better ones come significantly short of ideal.  So long as better ones are promoted with an understanding that they are not the best possible, istm that they can help to improve real circumstances and at the same time be steps toward better educated citizens.  And the latter is clearly the primary and unavoidable goal of the purists on this list who are anxious to preserve and promote real Social Credit.
 
Keith  
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Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 3:45 AM
Subject: Re: [socialcredit] Joe on Wal-Mart, Discount and CIR

 Hello Keith,
 
(You wrote:-) I met around a boardroom lunchtable recently with some local politicians and their small business colleagues and noted with interest their willingness to listen to accounts of how Bank of Canada used to control credit (monetary) issue and keep production going without inflation--during wartime.  Then after war, it is payback time.  An interesting connection, war and debt finance. 
 
It is indeed.  I am not an expert in any way in these matters, but  in regards to keeping "production going without inflation during wartime" wasn't there more involved than just using the BoC to finance government?  I don't think we can overlook the fact there was an extensive  system of government regulated 'wage and price controls' in place then, too. (unlike, apparently, in the First World War.) As well as strict 'rationing' of many formerly plentiful consumer commodities and essentials.  Other desired consumer commodities simply weren't available, (new automobiles, for instance), so there would've been no way their 'price' could've been 'inflated' in any case.   Even the willingness to pay 'more' for an existing, used car would likely have been tempered by the rationed amount of gasoline available to any would be car owner to drive it.  As well as  similar restrictions on the availability of tyres and spare parts.  Many workers were exempt military service, and encouraged to stay working in those fields where their skills were essential to maintaining needed production by the prospect of 'consciption' if they quit. People 'saved' their wages like never before, since there was often nothing available they wanted that they could  spend them on. 
 
(Keith continues:-)  Why does the Government now do its bank borrowing from private banks rather than the BoC? (Obviously to help CIBC pay back the hit on its latest mega-folly, Enron.)  It collects taxes to pay interest to banks instead of paying it to the BoC--of which it is sole shareholder. 
 
(Joe replies:-)  Good question.  But why should the 'government' BE the sole shareholder in the BofC?  If it truly belongs 'to the people', why not 'give' each individual Canadian his or her share of it?  And instead of worrying ourselves about how it can lend to the government 'interest-free', let any net profit it receives from the 'government' on its borrowings or otherwise,  be paid out to each of us.  By so doing would we not be 'financially' crediting the public with 'capital appreciation' the use of its credit created?
 
Joe

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