| Subject: | [socialcredit] Re: The mind of God | | Date: | , September 1, 2005 13:27:58 (+0200) | | From: | cymric <cymric @.......nz>
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There is no comparison between New Testament ( Covenant) Christianity and all
other religions including many that use the name 'Christian'.
So it is pointless reasoning or arguing as though a philosophical debate will
finalise what God shall be and for what reason we have.
N.T. Christianity is about God 'finding' his lost sheep and leading them into
his pastures. The rest is man trying to find a way to God. A quest for a 'holy
grail' if you like, shared with all the secret societies and cults.
So it is entirely consistent that 80% can reject Jesus as God the Son, who is
the way the truth and the light and the only way to God, rather than be proof
it is non-truth. God is a not a democratic creation. Since none of the other
religions have claimed to have found God they are in no place to ascert with any
conviction which is the way or not. The more so since they are all got different
ideas. If 80% were in agreement on an alturnative that had something ascertive
then there is grounds to listen but they dont claim anything unitedly ascertive
except they reject Jesus. And even his own crucified him as God had the prophets
say so hundreds of years in advance.
So consistent with God being the operative one rather than Man, Chick you
couldnt meet God on any mountain and be given any plates of commanments, because
God called Moses, not the reverse. The devil approached Jesus, not the reverse.
If you were baptised and a dove like form descended and God spoke audibly so all
present heard you might get a visit, but dont expect to be offered the keys to
the Whitehouse and Whitehall etc. And if you surrenered your will unto death do
you think you will be resurrected and return? Could you raise anyone from the
dead by your will?
The remains of all the other leading lights are still in their graves of known
locations. Jesus' grave is empty and there were plenty of witnesses and unknown
for sure regards location. Contrasts with everything else are endless.
Revelation not reason can bridge the gap.
Check out the testimony of Saul who was a zealous Jewish persecuter of
Christians who encouraged the stoning to death of believers, but once he was
thrown to the ground and blinded by a bright light he had his will tested
following revelation, after asking the divine being who He was and resurrected
Jesus answered and told him, Paul immediately without a lengthy philosophical
debate about how one defines truth, said "what would you have me do LORD?". God
is the operative one not man. Saul thought he was the operative one and fought
God in the process. He never found God until God 'found' him. Contrast,
contrast, contrast and 80% is logical and probably under estimated even then.
"I am the way the truth and the light" The 'name' of God originally was unknown
and known only by "I am" obviously in reference to The Eternal One. The 'I am'
in relation to the way etc is ambiguous. Jesus said to people in the Temple
"Before Abraham was, I am" and they wanted the stone him. He is the God of
Abraham and the God of Israel and all Gentiles ( nations ) who 'respond to him'
as such. (Abraham wasnt a Jew and his name means Father of Nations.)
Everyone else says it the reverse ( man searches for God) and so they have no
one with miracles and fulfilled prophecy to set them apart for rejection by
everyone else.
One of the best responses to those who want to reduce Jesus down to being just
another holy man is that either Jesus was who he said he was or he was a madman
because it is irrational to consider any middle ground. He is either the one or
the other and no one else could have this applied to them.
Peter H
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