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Subject:Re: [socialcredit] immanence
Date:Friday, September 2, 2005  00:18:40 (-0600)
From:Jim <jschroeder @....ca>
In reply to:Message 2682 (written by Triumphofthepast)

Hi Michael:
 
I will respond in red.
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Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 3:02 PM
Subject: [socialcredit] immanence

"An immanent God is a God that enters time." (Jim)

I don't think this is a correct use of the word "immanent."  "Immanent" is the opposite of "transcendent."  An immanent God is a God that "abides within" (from maneo, "remain"), just as immanent sovereignty is sovereignty is sovereignty that abides within. 
 
Yes, and the way I'm using the term "immanent" is "abides within" time.  Jesus Christ, and the doctrine of Incarnation, it the belief that God enters time (i.e. is born and dies).
 
Douglas's rejection of "exteriorization of Divinity" is a rejection of the transcendent God.
I can't say that I'm an expert on Douglas' theology, but if he is saying that God is within us, then I reject that philosophy.  And that's not to say that part of God is not within us, because God did create us, and there is God in us, but not all of God is within us.
I hope that makes sense?  Or is it clear as mud?  There is God in us, but all of God is not within us.  We are always less than God.  But if God was not in us, we would be nothing.


Douglas frequently mentions the Incarnation, which seems to contradict the immanent God.  However, he never employs this concept in its own right; rather, he employs it as a metaphor for an affirmation of life and this world as against abstraction and negation and death.
 
Like I said, I'm not totally familiar with Douglas' theology, I'm elaborating my own and Kierkegaard's theology.
The doctrine of Incarnation is very important to Kierkegaard and his concept of Christianity.
 
Take care,
 
Jim


Michael

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