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Subject:Re: [socialcredit] New Orleans (Joe's Questions_2)
Date:Sunday, September 4, 2005  07:31:40 (-0400)
From:Keith Wilde <nschwartz @......ca>
In reply to:Message 2698 (written by Joe Thomson)

Hi Joe,

I'm going to take your second question first and defer the other until
later.  It will require rounding up a bit of detail.

Your second question is one that I half anticipated and therefore tweaks my
interest more immediately.  It has occurred to me in reading exchanges on
this list and various (orthodox) texts that have been circulated, that the
world as conceived in Douglas' ideal would move toward urbanization much
more slowly than it has under the frenetic pace of "growth for jobs and
incomes" since the 1940s.  And from a personal preference perspective, I do
regret the diminution of quality of life and landscape that has overtaken
this continent in my lifetime.  Nevertheless, the ideas of community and
indivisibility of cultural heritage at the base of Douglas' analysis do seem
to point toward a gradual increase of urbanization.  Technological
"progress" seems to have an inevitably collectivizing trend.  That in turn
seems to entail projects that may require financing schemes that go beyond
the capacity of individual entrepreneurs (or very small companies) to
undertake.  (And I have the impression that such modest innovations are the
Douglas ideal.)

And even if we regret the extent of urbanization that has already taken
place, we have arrived at a spot where breaking up or privatizing public
utilities has become a plum for friends of governments and a scam on
taxpayers while at the same time diminishing the quality of service that was
once achieved.  Would a responsible Social Credit response to this situation
be to continue that trend--with the consequences now so stark in New
Orleans?

Keith


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Thomson" <thomsonhiyu@shaw.ca>
To: <socialcredit@elistas.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [socialcredit] Re: COGEXEC: Rebuilding New Orleans (Questions)


> Hi Keith,
>
> Two questions.  In your previous post you mentioned that "through the
> eighties the private Banks had been losing scads of money on poor
> investments, and needed a bail-out".  If this is so,  WHY  did so many of
> those 'investments' become 'poor investments'?
>
> And secondly, just what are the "positive (possible) aspects of
> urbanization."?  ('greater' ubanization, I mean.)
> Are there really any?  If, as it's been said, "the solution to pollution
is
> dilution", isn't greater urbanization counter-productive?
>
> Joe
>
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