| Subject: | Re: [socialcredit] The mind of God | | Date: | Tuesday, September 6, 2005 18:37:20 (-0600) | | From: | Jim <jschroeder @....ca>
|
| In reply to: | Message 2729 (written by Chick Hurst) |
Hi Chick:
You state:
"I could
> just as easily have used the name Mohammad, if the position was that
Social
> Credit was being considered as practical Islam, and I was suggesting that
he
> not alienate his audience by trying to tell them that the world would have
> to be Islamic if they were every going to understand and accept Social
> Credit."
This is your fundamental error Chick. I don't think you have to be a
Christian to accept Social Credit. You may have to be a Christian to
totally understand it, because it involves concepts that are uniquely
Christian, but even that I'm not sure about. However; Social Credit itself
stems from Christianity, of that there is no doubt, and to deny it is to
deny reality.
Social Credit is practical Christianity.
Take care,
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chick Hurst" <chickhurst@shaw.ca>
To: <socialcredit@elistas.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 10:29 AM
Subject: [socialcredit] The mind of God
> Peter
>
>
>
> I would not have ever considered that I would have to say this but you are
> dead wrong.
>
>
>
> First of all, you have no idea what my beliefs are!!
>
>
>
> Second, I was pointing out that every, what you call canonized book, is
> considered in the same value to those who believe it. Every religion
> considers their book to be God inspired. People of every religion value
> their book and their God the same as Christians consider theirs.
>
>
>
> Third, I asked nothing of Christians I would not ask or expect anyone of
any
> other religion to give, dignity and respect. No different than the
traffic
> light wants everyone to stop for red and go for green, regardless of
> religion, culture, colour or language.
>
>
>
> Fourth, I did not realize that Social Credit was a Christian secret. I
> thought that it was not only not a secret but available to the world. And
> what I have been trying to say is that, regardless of whether it is
> practical Christianity, practical Islam, practical Judaism, practical
Baha'I,
> practical Jain, practical Hindu or anything else, if you are going to
> present it to the world as a good system it must be good for people
> regardless of their religion, culture, language, or colour. The truth of
> the matter, regardless of your belief, A + B, the national dividend and
the
> Cultural Heritage are not impossible to be understood by people of other
> religions, cultures, languages or colours.
>
>
>
> Fifth, there is a law or Golden Rule that is presented in the New
Testament
> of the Christian bible.
>
>
>
> The Golden Rule
>
>
>
> 1.. Lay not on any soul a load that you would not wish to be laid upon
you
> and desire not for anyone the things you would not desire for yourself.
> [Baha'u'llah, Gleanings] [Baha'I Faith]
>
>
> 2.. This is the sum of duty: do not do to others what would cause pain
if
> done to you. [Mahabharata 5:1517] [Hinduism]
>
>
> 3.. Treat not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful.
> [Udana-Varga 5:18] [Buddhism]
>
>
> 4.. One word which sums up the basis of all good conduct . loving
> kindness. Do not do to others what you do not want done to yourself.
> [Analects 15:23] [Confucius]
>
>
> 5.. Not one of you truly believes until you wish for others what you
wish
> for yourself. [The Prophet Muhammad, Hadith] [Islam]
>
>
> 6.. What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour. This is the
> whole Torah; all the rest is commentary. [Hillel, Talmud, Shabbat 31a]
> [Judaism]
>
>
> 7.. Regard your neighbour's gain as your gain, and your neighbour's loss
> as your loss. [T'ai Shang Kan Ying P'ien, 213-218] [Taoism]
>
>
> 8.. I am a stranger to no one; and no one is a stranger to me. Indeed,
I
> am a friend to all. [Guru Granth Sahib, pg. 1299] [Sikhism]
>
>
> 9.. One should treat all creatures in the world as one would like to be
> treated. [Mahavira, Sutrakritanga] [Jainism]
>
>
> 10.. Do not do unto others whatever is injurious to yourself.
> [Shayast-na-Shayast 13.29] [Zoroastrianism]
>
>
> 11.. We are as much alive as we keep the earth alive. [Chief Dan
George]
> [Native Spirituality]
>
>
> 12.. We affirm and promote respect for the interdependent web of all
> existence of which we are a part. [Unitarian principle] [Unitarianism]
>
>
> 13.. In everything, do to others as you would have them do to you; for
> this is the law and the prophets. [Jesus, Matthew 7:12] [Christianity]
> {Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye
> even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. (King James
Version)}
>
>
> So, if you are considering a simple request to treat all people with
dignity
> and respect as an attack than where is the arrogance and prejudice. Jim
> knows me better than anyone on this list and he knows that to suggest
> prejudice is an absolute abomination. This rule as presented by Jesus,
and
> all the others, is a rule to live by not just to be talked about, or never
> talked about.
>
>
>
> If everyone else can quote whomever they like than I should also have that
> right and for it to come from a not religious source, even better.
>
>
>
> And if Jim takes positioning of Jim in a hypothetical committee to spread
> the word of Social Credit as a personal attack, then I am sorry. I could
> just as easily have used the name Mohammad, if the position was that
Social
> Credit was being considered as practical Islam, and I was suggesting that
he
> not alienate his audience by trying to tell them that the world would have
> to be Islamic if they were every going to understand and accept Social
> Credit.
>
>
>
>
>
> Chick
>
>
>
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