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Subject:Re: [socialcredit] Swanwick no. 2
Date:Wednesday, December 7, 2005  22:00:15 (-0800)
From:Joe Thomson <thomsonhiyu @....ca>
In reply to:Message 3185 (written by Triumphofthepast)

(Michael wrote:-)  If you used it to purchase new stock issue, it would not be any different than if you used your earnings for the same thing; and per Swanwick #2 you are not going to do either, because production is not going to be financed that way any more.
 
(Joe replies:-)  This leads me to ask how do you envision production being financed?  Suppose I decide to expand production in my mill  and opt to sell treasury stock, perhaps to one or more people  who might want to join me and take an active role in the business, rather than the firm borrowing the funds needed.  Are you saying that such a potential investor could not use his 'savings' directly to invest, but would have to seek a 'bank loan'  instead?  If this were the case, are we not back to another examination  of Douglas's 'pound for pound' letter to Denis Byrne?  Beyond that, are we not imbuing the 'banks' with an increase in their 'monopoly' powers if we interpret Swanwick # 2 in a 'micro-economic' manner?   The decision on whether to grant 'new credit' on an 'individual' basis is still going to be made by the bank as a practical matter, (remember, Douglas called the administration of the banks 'admirable' ~ and if deciding who is likely to be able to repay a loan or not is not 'administration', I hope you or someone else can tell me what is.)  If the banks decide that 'new credits' are, in THEIR opinion, not warranted on a particular 'individual' basis, and we interpret Swanwick # 2 'microeconomically' and the would-be private investor is forbidden to use his 'savings' directly at HIS discretion, have we not just further enhanced the 'monopoly of credit'?

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