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Subject:RE: [socialcredit] Swanwick 2
Date:Thursday, December 15, 2005  22:12:38 (+0000)
From:John G Rawson <johngrawson @.......com>
In reply to:Message 3223 (written by Triumphofthepast)

Alright.  Let's pursue this further.

I have (yes, more than once) in my small flower production business, developed a new calla (Zantedeschia vars.) which may sweep the market, or may simply drop out of ken because of changing fashions. Or the tubers may all turn out to be "rotters" and nearly all simply disappear in their third season. I need about $10,000 (minimum) to propagate it in large numbers sufficient to make some sort of impact.  And I am not allowed to risk my own capital.

Do I go to one of the banks and demand, by right of being a citizen, a loan of this amount?  If not, how the blazes to I persuade my bank manager to fund this very risky project?  Must I mortgage my property, which surely would be tantamount to using savings?

Moral:  Douglas' analysis of the economic system was absolutely brilliant.  His antisemitism, though very fashionable at the time was at the very least irresponsible. Where, in the spectrum of his dicta do we draw the line;  at this last point, or a bit sooner in relation to some of his ideas in between?  I simply don't buy the superstitious approach of many Scoial Crediters who believe that he must be treated as completely infallible;  that his pronouncements should not be subjected to reasonable analysis, particularly in view of changed circumstances. (We no longer live in slump time, for example.)

This ossified and unreasoning approach is one of our weaknesses, every bit as dangerous as subtle movement away from his obviously valid ideas.

Bill, if you do close down, please accept my thanks for riding herd on these discussions to date.  I'm sure I have annoyed a few people in the process, but I have gained an immense amount of valuable information from it, as well as sorting out my own ideas for practical use.

Regards.  John R.


From: Triumphofthepast@aol.com
Reply-To: socialcredit@elistas.com
To: socialcredit@elistas.com
Subject: [socialcredit] Swanwick 2
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:08:57 EST


"That the credits required to finance production shall be supplied, not from savings, but be new credits relating to new production."


Both John and Joe suggest this means "the aforementioned credits required to LIQUIDATE production."  I don't see how it could.  Worse, he would now be saying that savings SHALL NOT be used to buy consumer goods and services!

Michael



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