|Subject:||Re: [socialcredit] Re: Swanwick Principles|
|Date:||Friday, December 10, 2004 08:10:55 (-0800)|
|From:||Joe Thomson <thomsonhiyu @....ca>
|In reply to:||Message 342 (written by Timothy Carpenter)|
You wrote:- "It is not 'elitist' and it is not callous in accepting human
what it is. Far from describing people as 'subhuman' I am just discussing
human behaviour and trends and saying some will behave thus. Many people are
lazy, period and many poor are incredibly hard-working. It does not speak of
the poor remaining so and I fully support opportunity for people to rise and
part of this desire is an opposition to social dividends which IMHO not only
dissuades some people from striving but lures others not to. My feeling is
many will escape poverty when receiving the social dividend but a (ever)
larger group will flop down into it."
Could it be you're confusing the nature of the Social Credit proposal for a
''National Dividend'' with the oft called for proposals from many diverse
quarters for some form of ''Guaranteed Annual Income''? The former, as it
should be seen, is in the nature of a necessary national 'accounting
adjustment'. . And with the 'Consumer Discount' at point of retail, (both
in the correct amount, and distributed as necessary'), assist in the full
distribution of its production. Which, presently, its collective 'incomes'
are insufficient in their distribution to buy.
The latter, as far as I understand it, is simply a re-distribution of
incomes through taxation. And indeed may have some of the deleterious
effects on some people's initiative you imply.
Further to this, though, when you write "some people are lazy", which is
undoubtedly true, will 'forcing' these people to 'work', when it is clear
that their production is not presently required, make them change? Why
burden some poor employer with someone who doesn't 'want' to work? Is that
a rationally efficient way to accomplish anything, other than perhaps the
mutual misery of both employer and employee?
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