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Subject:[socialcredit] RE: OWNERSHIP: time preference
Date:Monday, December 13, 2004  11:24:44 (-0000)
From:Wetzel Dave <Davewetzel @.......uk>

Maybe we should be looking at the speculation in land as a reason for booms
and slumps.
The slump is caused by land that is kept out of the market while the owner
speculates on a future windfall gain.
The withdrawal of land from the market denies people jobs and homes.
It also causes land prices to rise.
Hence accommodation for business and homes becomes even more expensive.
Marginal firms are unable to afford essential premises and business activity
declines.

Dave
Dave Wetzel.

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From: william_b_ryan@yahoo.com [mailto:william_b_ryan@yahoo.com]
Sent: 12 December 2004 21:24
To: ownership@cog.kent.edu; socialcredit@elistas.com
Subject: OWNERSHIP: time preference


Pat Gunning:  "What you should do is look at your 
assumptions and your logic."
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[Reply] To which as a general principle I perfectly 
agree.  While recognizing--since reading his notes to 
this list over these past few months--he has 
objections to certain aspects of Rothbard's approach, 
which I appreciate even though I yet do not yet fully 
understand, I wonder if Professor Gunning has any 
specific objections to the summary presentation of 
the Austrian Theory of the Trade Cycle appended 
below?  I am simply asking if in his estimation it is 
a fair representation?  Assuming it is a fair 
representation, I would like to take it as the focal 
point for discussion, in that it is succinctly and 
clearly stated.  If it is not, perhaps he might 
suggest another.

In the spirit of disclosure to those who didn't 
already know, I will admit I am skeptical of time 
preference theory in reespect to money.
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[Rothbard] "Without bank credit expansion, supply and 
demand tend to be equilibrated through the free price 
system, and no cumulative booms or busts can then 
develop."
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[Reply] Which I suggested earlier might be an example 
of the post hoc, ergo, prompter hoc fallacy.
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[Rothbard] "Economic growth comes about largely as 
the result of falling rates of time-preference, which 
lead to an increase in the proportion of saving and 
investment to consumption, and also to a falling rate 
of interest."
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[Reply] Assume an economy in even rotation in terms 
of finance, that with each rotation new and improved 
technology is introduced.  Would not such an economy 
"grow" without any change in time preference?
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F A I R  U S E  C L A I M E D

SOURCE: http://www.mises.org/tradcycl/econdepr.asp

Murray Rothbard

Building on the Ricardians, on general "Austrian" 
theory, and on his own creative genius, Mises 
developed the following theory of the business cycle:

Without bank credit expansion, supply and demand tend 
to be equilibrated through the free price system, and 
no cumulative booms or busts can then develop. But 
then government through its central bank stimulates 
bank credit expansion by expanding central bank 
liabilities and therefore the cash reserves of all 
the nation's commercial banks. The banks then proceed 
to expand credit and hence the nation's money supply 
in the form of check deposits. As the Ricardians saw, 
this expansion of bank money drives up the prices of 
goods and hence causes inflation. But, Mises showed, 
it does something else, and something even more 
sinister. Bank credit expansion, by pouring new loan 
funds into the business world, artificially lowers 
the rate of interest in the economy below its free 
market level.

On the free and unhampered market, the interest rate 
is determined purely by the "time-preferences" of all 
the individuals that make up the market economy. For 
the essence of a loan is that a "present good" (money 
which can be used at present) is being exchanged for 
a "future good" (an IOU which can only be used at 
some point in the future). Since people always prefer 
money right now to the present prospect of getting 
the same amount of money some time in the future, the 
present good always commands a premium in the market 
over the future. This premium is the interest rate, 
and its height will vary according to the degree to 
which people prefer the present to the future, i.e., 
the degree of their time-preferences.

People's time-preferences also determine the extent 
to which people will save and invest, as compared to 
how much they will consume. If people's time-
preferences should fall, i.e., if their degree of 
preference for present over future falls, then people 
will tend to consume less now and save and invest 
more; at the same time, and for the same reason, the 
rate of interest, the rate of time-discount, will 
also fall. Economic growth comes about largely as the 
result of falling rates of time-preference, which 
lead to an increase in the proportion of saving and 
investment to consumption, and also to a falling rate 
of interest.

But what happens when the rate of interest falls, not 
because of lower time-preferences and higher savings, 
but from government interference that promotes the 
expansion of bank credit? In other words, if the rate 
of interest falls artificially, due to intervention, 
rather than naturally, as a result of changes in the 
valuations and preferences of the consuming public?

What happens is trouble. For businessmen, seeing the 
rate of interest fall, react as they always would and 
must to such a change of market signals: They invest 
more in capital and producers' goods. Investments, 
particularly in lengthy and time-consuming projects, 
which previously looked unprofitable now seem 
profitable, because of the fall of the interest 
charge. In short, businessmen react as they would 
react if savings had genuinely increased: They expand 
their investment in durable equipment, in capital 
goods, in industrial raw material, in construction as 
compared to their direct production of consumer 
goods.

Businesses, in short, happily borrow the newly 
expanded bank money that is coming to them at cheaper 
rates; they use the money to invest in capital goods, 
and eventually this money gets paid out in higher 
rents to land, and higher wages to workers in the 
capital goods industries. The increased business 
demand bids up labor costs, but businesses think they 
can pay these higher costs because they have been 
fooled by the government-and-bank intervention in the 
loan market and its decisively important tampering 
with the interest-rate signal of the marketplace.

The problem comes as soon as the workers and 
landlords-largely the former, since most gross 
business income is paid out in wages-begin to spend 
the new bank money that they have received in the 
form of higher wages. For the time-preferences of the 
public have not really gotten lower; the public 
doesn't want to save more than it has. So the workers 
set about to consume most of their new income, in 
short to reestablish the old consumer/saving 
proportions. This means that they redirect the 
spending back to the consumer goods industries, and 
they don't save and invest enough to buy the newly-
produced machines, capital equipment, industrial raw 
materials, etc. This all reveals itself as a sudden 
sharp and continuing depression in the producers' 
goods industries. Once the consumers reestablished 
their desired consumption/investment proportions, it 
is thus revealed that business had invested too much 
in capital goods and had underinvested in consumer 
goods. Business had been seduced by the governmental 
tampering and artificial lowering of the rate of 
interest, and acted as if more savings were available 
to invest than were really there. As soon as the new 
bank money filtered through the system and the 
consumers reestablished their old proportions, it 
became clear that there were not enough savings to 
buy all the producers' goods, and that business had 
misinvested the limited savings available. Business 
had overinvested in capital goods and underinvested 
in consumer products.

The inflationary boom thus leads to distortions of 
the pricing and production system. Prices of labor 
and raw materials in the capital goods industries had 
been bid up during the boom too high to be profitable 
once the consumers reassert their old 
consumption/investment preferences. The "depression" 
is then seen as the necessary and healthy phase by 
which the market economy sloughs off and liquidates 
the unsound, uneconomic investments of the boom, and 
reestablishes those proportions between consumption 
and investment that are truly desired by the 
consumers. The depression is the painful but 
necessary process by which the free market sloughs 
off the excesses and errors of the boom and 
reestablishes the market economy in its function of 
efficient service to the mass of consumers. Since 
prices of factors of production have been bid too 
high in the boom, this means that prices of labor and 
goods in these capital goods industries must be 
allowed to fall until proper market relations are 
resumed.

Since the workers receive the increased money in the 
form of higher wages fairly rapidly, how is it that 
booms can go on for years without having their 
unsound investments revealed, their errors due to 
tampering with market signals become evident, and the 
depression-adjustment process begins its work? The 
answer is that booms would be very short lived if the 
bank credit expansion and subsequent pushing of the 
rate of interest below the free market level were a 
one-shot affair. But the point is that the credit 
expansion is not one-shot; it proceeds on and on, 
never giving consumers the chance to reestablish 
their preferred proportions of consumption and 
saving, never allowing the rise in costs in the 
capital goods industries to catch up to the 
inflationary rise in prices. Like the repeated doping 
of a horse, the boom is kept on its way and ahead of 
its inevitable comeuppance, by repeated doses of the 
stimulant of bank credit. It is only when bank credit 
expansion must finally stop, either because the banks 
are getting into a shaky condition or because the 
public begins to balk at the continuing inflation, 
that retribution finally catches up with the boom. As 
soon as credit expansion stops, then the piper must 
be paid, and the inevitable readjustments liquidate 
the unsound over-investments of the boom, with the 
reassertion of a greater proportionate emphasis on 
consumers' goods production.

Thus, the Misesian theory of the business cycle 
accounts for all of our puzzles: The repeated and 
recurrent nature of the cycle, the massive cluster of 
entrepreneurial error, the far greater intensity of 
the boom and bust in the producers' goods industries.

Mises, then, pinpoints the blame for the cycle on 
inflationary bank credit expansion propelled by the 
intervention of government and its central bank. What 
does Mises say should be done, say by government, 
once the depression arrives? What is the governmental 
role in the cure of depression? In the first place, 
government must cease inflating as soon as possible. 
It is true that this will, inevitably, bring the 
inflationary boom abruptly to an end, and commence 
the inevitable recession or depression. But the 
longer the government waits for this, the worse the 
necessary readjustments will have to be. The sooner 
the depression-readjustment is gotten over with, the 
better. This means, also, that the government must 
never try to prop up unsound business situations; it 
must never bail out or lend money to business firms 
in trouble. Doing this will simply prolong the agony 
and convert a sharp and quick depression phase into a 
lingering and chronic disease. The government must 
never try to prop up wage rates or prices of 
producers' goods; doing so will prolong and delay 
indefinitely the completion of the depression-
adjustment process; it will cause indefinite and 
prolonged depression and mass unemployment in the 
vital capital goods industries. The government must 
not try to inflate again, in order to get out of the 
depression. For even if this reinflation succeeds, it 
will only sow greater trouble later on. The 
government must do nothing to encourage consumption, 
and it must not increase its own expenditures, for 
this will further increase the social consumption/ 
investment ratio. In fact, cutting the government 
budget will improve the ratio. What the economy needs 
is not more consumption spending but more saving, in 
order to validate some of the excessive investments 
of the boom.

Thus, what the government should do, according to the 
Misesian analysis of the depression, is absolutely 
nothing. It should, from the point of view of 
economic health and ending the depression as quickly 
as possible, maintain a strict hands off, "laissez-
faire" policy. Anything it does will delay and 
obstruct the adjustment process of the market; the 
less it does, the more rapidly will the market 
adjustment process do its work, and sound economic 
recovery ensue.

The Misesian prescription is thus the exact opposite 
of the Keynesian: It is for the government to keep 
absolute hands off the economy and to confine itself 
to stopping its own inflation and to cutting its own 
budget.
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