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Subject:Re: [socialcredit] Enslaving Memes
Date:Saturday, December 11, 2004  12:24:22 (+1000)
From:socred <socred @.......au>

CORRECTION

> Do you believe that this generation is passing a burden of debt on to
> succeeding generations?

Answer: Yes. To deny this is to deny facts.
>
> Perhaps you believe your unborn grandchild can somehow place food upon
> your table?

Answer: A silly question. If, and when the grandchild is born and grows up 
it is quite possible that he or she will be able to place food on my table 
providing it is available at that time. Whether or not he or she will, 
providing I am alive, is amatter of speculation at this time.
>
> Conveying the concept of debt that is passed on to future generations as
> a "debt burden" is suborning slavery.

Answer: The first part has been answered above. As for "suborning slavery", 
if this means that people are subjected to confitions that require them to 
be subservient to a faulty financial system the answe is YES.
>
> The truth is that any generation of humans is supported by the adults
> from 18 to 70 years old. All goods and needs are supplied by living
> beings. Neither the dead nor the unborn create anything.

ANSWER: Any generation is supported in its current operation as a society by 
the current efforts supported by past generations. ALL goods and needs ARE 
NOT supplied by the living.The dead have created things in the past of which 
the benefit is being accessed by the living. The unborn in turn will create 
somting in the future which will assist their contemporaries and others in 
their future.
>
> It is a truism of human history that you are the beneficiary of the
> efforts and creations of previous generations and that your progeny will
> be the beneficiary of your efforts now. The very concept of loading the
> next generation with debt is a conceptual meme employed by your
> enslavers.

ANSWER: Correct. There is some inconsistency with this statement and 
previous comments.
>
> Any human society progresses forward on the labor and intelligence
> energy expended upon the physical resources found at their locality.

ANSWER: Labor energy is a diminishing factor in the use of physical 
resources bieng replaced by other forms of energy. "Intelligence energy" 
cannot be expended on physical resources, only the use of that intelligence 
in applying it to the use of other energy sources to be applied on physical 
resources.

> National debt and international debt is "a grand falloon, made of the
> filling of a child's balloon." Believing such a thing is to enslave
> yourself and passing such an image to your children is to enslave your
> progeny.

NO COMMENT

> Look at how the Channel Islands of Guernsey and Jersey simply create
> money for public use, spend it into circulation on public projects, and
> tax it back out of circulation for a debt free system of money creation
> that does not enslave the users.

ANSWER: Correct. However it does not solve the problems existing in 
industrialised nations.
>
> 




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