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Subject:RE: [socialcredit] Definition of inflation
Date:Sunday, February 12, 2006  21:01:58 (-0500)
From:Daniel Morin <dan @........com>
In reply to:Message 3388 (written by John G Rawson)

Before making your own definition of inflation to fit your A+B model, here is the definition of Inflation according to my Webster Dictionary:
 
"An increase in the volume of money and credit relative to available goods and services resulting in a continuing rise in the general price level."
 
Source: Webster Collegial Dictionary, 1996.
-----Original Message-----
From: John G Rawson [mailto:johngrawson@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 3:02 PM
To: socialcredit@elistas.com
Subject: Re: [socialcredit] Social Credit and Inflation--and related issues

First, define inflation.  Invariably, it is measured as "rising prices", which therefore that is my, and I think our Party's, definition of it.  It may be caused by "too much money ...", when it is "demand-pull inflation", or by other factors (e.g. rising oil prices or higher interest rates) when it is "cost-push inflation".

And, once again, the A+B model postulates as a corollary that we have cost-push inflation more than demand-pull.  "There are factors in the economy (B costs) that push the cost of goods above the level of consumer purchasing power." So of course economists who deny the Douglas analkysis don't understand where inflation is coming from.

Regards.   John R.


From: "W. McGunnigle" <wmcgunn@maxnet.co.nz>
Reply-To: socialcredit@elistas.com
To: <socialcredit@elistas.com>
Subject: Re: [socialcredit] Social Credit and Inflation--and related issues
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:04:53 +1300
>Hi Kenneth
> I had not really considered that question of "inflation"
>as it operated in our economy, but was intrigued by your comment that
>socalled "economic experts" have never produced a really satisfactory answer
>as to why it happens. I find that, on reflection, all their "explanations"
>appear to be waffle with little or no substance to back up their comments.
>They are very good at manipulating figures, but very short on statisdtical
>analysis of those figures. They always have an excuse as to why their
>forecasts are incorrect. My youngest brother has a theory that inflation has
>nothing to do with money or product availablity, but is the direct result of
>propaganda perpetrated by banking organisations who encourage price
>increases by simply stating that inflation is increasing and prices must
>increase to compensate for it. They don't have to state any reasons, but
>simply create an atmosphere whereby price increases are accepted. Inflation,
>i.e. increased costs for goods and services, follows on as a self-induced,
>self-fullfilling prophesy. Effectively "inflation" is a mind set rather
>than an economic consequence. I cannot see how this can be quantified, but I
>can see the logic in his argument. It certainly explains the "stagflation"
>phenomena where costs still increased despite falling industrial production
>and increasing unemployment.
> Bill Mc Gunnigle
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kenneth Palmerton" <kenpalmerton@cix.compulink.co.uk>
>To: <socialcredit@elistas.com>
>Cc: <kenpalmerton@cix.compulink.co.uk>
>Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 5:40 AM
>Subject: Re: [socialcredit] Social Credit and Inflation--and related issues
>
>
> > In-Reply-To: <00aa01c62844$b0b3d320$6400a8c0@cdv73pbgpo6eny>
> > Hi Wallace.
> >
> > For a very long time I have been of the opinion that economists do NOT
> > understand "inflation". Even their attempts to describe it, and offer a
> > definition leave me much less than convinced of their competence.
> >
> > They seem to offer no logical explanation of why prices rise.
> >
> > I have sat with fellow directors of a manufacturing company around our
> > board room table looking at each other wondering if our competitors would
> > let us get away with a price rise of our products.
> >
> > This was not so much an exercise in maximising our profits, as trying
> > desperately to cover our costs. This I believe is a common scenario,
> > common to most companies in mature markets.
> >
> > Coming to understand later the rightness of A+B has helped, with its
> > reference to purchasing power, which was the other thing we Directors
> > agonised over. Would our customers have the money in their pockets when
> > they chose our products ?
> >
> > This enlightenment came too late for me and mine I fear :-))
> >
> > Ken.
> >
> >
>
>
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