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Subject:Re: [socialcredit] Re: U.S. economic data
Date:Thursday, February 23, 2006  15:42:10 (-0700)
From:Martin Hattersley <hattersleyjm @.........com>

Thanks -that makes it much clearer! 
 
Martin Hattersley 
1970-10123-99 St. Edmonton AB Canada 
Phone (780)423-2081; Fax (780)425-5247 
e-mail: jmartinh@shaw.ca 
           hattersleyjm@interbaun.com 
 
 
  ----- Original Message -----  
  From: John Hermann  
  To: socialcredit@elistas.com  
  Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 1:06 AM 
  Subject: [socialcredit] Re: U.S. economic data 
 
 
 
  For some reason the captions to the diagrams that I posted did not show up on
Martin Hattersley's computer. The file should be opened in a more recent version
of Word for Windows, as the diagrams have been embedded. Any other format will
presumably give problems. The captions are reproduced below.  
 
  I calculated the time-dependent quantities using raw data obtained from
official tables (which are freely accessible on the web). The comparisons and the
graphical plots were then implemented using appropriate software. The material
was subsequently incorporated in my published article "debt and the growth
imperative", which can be accessed on the web. One of these graphs was also
incorporated in a paper that I wrote describing a mathematical model of debt
growth (the paper is fairly mathematical, but can be comprehended by anyone with
a good working knowledge of college algebra and calculus). I will be happy to
email a copy of either item on request. 
 
  Regards,  
  John Hermann 
 
 
  Economic Data for the United States 
 
  Figure 1 
 
  Time rate of increase (natural logarithmic scale) of (a) total debt (Prof
Robert Blain's data), (b) nominal GDP, (c) money supply M2, and (d) money supply
M1   
 
  The graphs depict the natural logarithm of each of these aggregates as a
function of the calendar year over a 24-year time span.  The source of the
monetary and GDP data is the Report of the Board of Governors of the US Federal
Reserve System.  All figures were taken in December each year, and are measured
in $(US)billion. The dotted lines are the linear best fits.  It can be seen that
the secular trend for all of the quantities plotted is exponential growth with
close to the same growth constant.  
 
  Figure 2 
 
  (a) Red: Rate of change of total debt (Prof Robert Blain's data) plotted as
the natural logarithm of this quantity. 
  (b) Blue: Rate of change of monetary aggregate M2 plotted as the natural
logarithm of this quantity. 
  (c) Black: Rate of change of real GDP. 
  (d) Green: Prime interest rate. 
 
 
  Note: Curve (c) has been scaled down by a factor of 200, while curve (d) has
been scaled down by a factor of 5, for convenience in comparing the quantities  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks -that makes it much  
clearer!</FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> 
<DIV><BR>Martin Hattersley<BR>1970-10123-99 St. Edmonton AB Canada<BR>Phone  
(780)423-2081; Fax (780)425-5247<BR>e-mail: <A  
href="mailto:jmartinh@shaw.ca">jmartinh@shaw.ca</A><BR>            
<A href="mailto:hattersleyjm@interbaun.com">hattersleyjm@interbaun.com</A></DIV>

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  <DIV  
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  <A title=hermann@picknowl.com.au href="mailto:hermann@picknowl.com.au">John  
  Hermann</A> </DIV> 
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=socialcredit@elistas.com  
  href="mailto:socialcredit@elistas.com">socialcredit@elistas.com</A> </DIV> 
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 23, 2006 1:06  
  AM</DIV> 
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [socialcredit] Re: U.S. economic

  data</DIV> 
  <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT color=#0000ff><BR>For some reason the captions to the  
  diagrams that I posted did not show up on Martin Hattersley's computer. The  
  file should be opened in a more recent version of Word for Windows, as the  
  diagrams have been embedded. Any other format will presumably give problems.  
  The captions are reproduced below. <BR><BR>I calculated the time-dependent  
  quantities using raw data obtained from official tables (which are freely  
  accessible on the web). The comparisons and the graphical plots were then  
  implemented using appropriate software. The material was subsequently  
  incorporated in my published article "debt and the growth imperative", which  
  can be accessed on the web. One of these graphs was also incorporated in a  
  paper that I wrote describing a mathematical model of debt growth (the paper  
  is fairly mathematical, but can be comprehended by anyone with a good working 

  knowledge of college algebra and calculus). I will be happy to email a copy of

  either item on request.<BR><BR>Regards, <BR>John  
  Hermann<BR><BR><BR></FONT><FONT size=4><B>Economic Data for the United  
  States<BR><BR></FONT><FONT color=#800000 size=4>Figure  
  1<BR><BR></B></FONT>Time rate of increase (natural logarithmic scale) of (a)  
  total debt (Prof Robert Blain’s data), (b) nominal GDP, (c) money supply M2,  
  and (d) money supply M1  <BR><BR>The graphs depict the natural logarithm  
  of each of these aggregates as a function of the calendar year over a 24-year 

  time span.  The source of the monetary and GDP data is the Report of the  
  Board of Governors of the US Federal Reserve System.  All figures were  
  taken in December each year, and are measured in $(US)billion. The dotted  
  lines are the linear best fits.  It can be seen that the secular trend  
  for all of the quantities plotted is exponential<FONT size=4> </FONT>growth  
  with close to the same growth constant. <BR><BR><FONT color=#800000  
  size=4><B>Figure 2<BR><BR></B></FONT>(a) Red: Rate of change of total debt  
  (Prof Robert Blain’s data) plotted as the natural logarithm of this  
  quantity.<BR>(b) Blue: Rate of change of monetary aggregate M2 plotted as the 

  natural logarithm of this quantity.<BR>(c) Black: Rate of change of real  
  GDP.<BR>(d) Green: Prime interest rate.<BR><BR><BR>Note: Curve (c) has been  
  scaled down by a factor of 200, while curve (d) has been scaled down by a  
  factor of 5, for convenience in comparing the quantities <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> 
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