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Subject:Re: [socialcredit] Tragedy of Human Effort
Date:Tuesday, March 7, 2006  08:10:24 (+1300)
From:Peter Haines <cymric @.......nz>
In reply to:Message 3562 (written by Keith Wilde)

Howdy Keith,
 
I though your choice of a pro-psuedo-science anti-Bible example was rather unfortunate. The whole Bible was a detterrent to Marxist theories of the 19th century which was also a more complete understanding of how mankind should live in this world, so what?
I notice the thoroughbred horse industry hasnt been put out of stride due to theories that a horse might breed a catipillar or a fish.
Science like truth isnt deterremined by popularity or repetition.  Same thing goes for scripture.
I would suggest that the funniest side of man has been in the way he has handled science and scripture and theories about them, even funnier than economics.  As I said it was unfortunate you chose it.
Peter H   
 
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Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:03 AM
Subject: Re: [socialcredit] Tragedy of Human Effort

Since no one else has come forward to correct John's misconceptions about inductive versus deductive reasoning, I contradict even though my resources for carrying through are still a bit feeble. 
 
I agree with John that just how Douglas came upon his ideas and analysis is not critical in evaluating how well they work.
 
But to say that Sherlock Holmes represents inductive thinking is to get things in reverse.  The Holmes stories are examples of deductive logic.  Inductive reasoning is of the kind that infers from repetitive instances a rule that the instances will continue to recur, because it is a law of nature.  It is the kind of reasoning that led the authors of Genesis to infer that species breed true because God designed them that way and therefore needed to save them in the Ark.  This kind of thinking was a deterrent to acceptance of more complete theories of species and their evolution in the 18th and 19th centuries.
 
Keith Wilde
 
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Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 6:59 PM
Subject: RE: [socialcredit] Tragedy of Human Effort

Believe it or not, the best example of inductive reasoning comes from the Sherlock Holmes novels.

Collect date, organise it to make it better understandable, get rid of the obviously wrong answers, and go and have a good sleep, por play a violin, or indulge in hectic sport, or... The subconscious mind will come up with ideas.  Treat each destructively to see if it can be eliminated.  The one that can't be is probably the best, until new data requires it to be modified.  It doesn't matter a stuff where Douglas' analysis comes from or what are its likely causes.  Treated inductively it remains by far the best explanation of events last century.

And I believe the various different definitions of money invented by orthodox economists were attempts to get away from it, but surprisingly each seems to confirm it more.

Refgards.    John R.


From: Triumphofthepast@aol.com
Reply-To: socialcredit@elistas.com
To: socialcredit@elistas.com
Subject: [socialcredit] Tragedy of Human Effort
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 08:04:52 EST

"It can be tested inductively in that it explains events over the last century that are inexplicable using the alternative. . . .  Nothing is proved by induction.  But the opposite stands clearly disproved." (Joh n)

That's what I said, I think.  However, I thought it worth taking some trouble to identify (1) What is the phenomenon to be explained? and (2) What exactly IS the hypothesis?

Michael

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