From: "Peter Haines" <cymric@xtra.co.nz>
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Subject: Re:
[socialcredit] Tragedy of Human Effort
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 08:10:24 +1300
Howdy Keith,
I though your choice of a pro-psuedo-science anti-Bible example was rather
unfortunate. The whole Bible was a detterrent to Marxist theories of the 19th
century which was also a more complete understanding of how mankind should live
in this world, so what?
I notice the thoroughbred horse industry hasnt been put out of stride due to
theories that a horse might breed a catipillar or a fish.
Science like truth isnt deterremined by popularity or repetition. Same thing
goes for scripture.
I would suggest that the funniest side of man has been in the way he has
handled science and scripture and theories about them, even funnier than
economics. As I said it was unfortunate you chose it.
Peter H
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Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:03 AM
Subject: Re: [socialcredit] Tragedy of Human Effort
Since no one else has come forward to correct John's misconceptions about
inductive versus deductive reasoning, I contradict even though my resources for
carrying through are still a bit feeble.
I agree with John that just how Douglas came upon his ideas and analysis is
not critical in evaluating how well they work.
But to say that Sherlock Holmes represents inductive thinking is to get things
in reverse. The Holmes stories are examples of deductive logic. Inductive
reasoning is of the kind that infers from repetitive instances a rule that the
instances will continue to recur, because it is a law of nature. It is the kind
of reasoning that led the authors of Genesis to infer that species breed true
because God designed them that way and therefore needed to save them in the Ark.
This kind of thinking was a deterrent to acceptance of more complete theories of
species and their evolution in the 18th and 19th centuries.
Keith Wilde
---- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 6:59 PM
Subject: RE: [socialcredit] Tragedy of Human Effort
Believe it or not, the best example of inductive reasoning comes from the
Sherlock Holmes novels.
Collect date, organise it to make it better understandable, get rid of the
obviously wrong answers, and go and have a good sleep, por play a violin, or
indulge in hectic sport, or... The subconscious mind will come up with ideas.
Treat each destructively to see if it can be eliminated. The one that can't be
is probably the best, until new data requires it to be modified. It doesn't
matter a stuff where Douglas' analysis comes from or what are its likely causes.
Treated inductively it remains by far the best explanation of events last
century.
And I believe the various different definitions of money invented by orthodox
economists were attempts to get away from it, but surprisingly each seems to
confirm it more.
Refgards. John R.
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Subject: [socialcredit] Tragedy of Human
Effort
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 08:04:52 EST
"It can be tested inductively in
that it explains events over the last century that are inexplicable using the
alternative. . . . Nothing is proved by induction. But the opposite stands
clearly disproved." (Joh n)
That's what I said, I think. However, I thought it
worth taking some trouble to identify (1) What is the phenomenon to be explained?
and (2) What exactly IS the hypothesis?
Michael
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