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Subject:[socialcredit] the chicken AND the egg
Date:Tuesday, December 21, 2004  12:31:56 (-0800)
From:william_b_ryan <william_b_ryan @.....com>

>The rate of
>production of eggs is a function of the number of
>hens, and the number of hens is a function of the
>demand for eggs. Most any barnyard can increase its
>rate of egg production considerably without reducing
>its current rate of delivery to the local market, if
>demand for eggs is increasing at the local market.

Only by buying fertile eggs (in which case another 
farm is keeping eggs off the market) chicks or 
pullets -- i.e., sacrificing current resources -- 
instead of incubating and hatching eggs.
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[REPLY]  The rate of production of eggs is also a 
function of the *process* of egg production and 
distribution, which is amenable to continuous 
improvement.  Continuous improvement to process has 
been the norm for centuries.  Its effects are 
compounding.  Please tell us how the improvement to 
process as described below, given merely as an 
example, requires "sacrifice" in the consumption of 
eggs or anything else?

Bill
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"Induced molting can be an effective management tool, 
enabling you to match egg production with demand and 
reduce bird cost per dozen eggs. Through an induced 
molt, the productive life of a flock can be extended 
to an age of 105 weeks. You can adjust the timing of 
a molt as part of a total profit plan that maximizes 
egg production over the life span of the hens and 
matches periods of highest egg production to periods 
of highest egg prices."
http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/poulsci/techinfo/4Pst10.htm



--------original message--------
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:46:47 GMT
Subject: Re: In Reply to Mr. Hattersley

On 20 Dec 2004 11:20:21 -0800, 
william_b_ryan@yahoo.com wrote:

>"Any capital formation involves immediate sacrifice
>for the sake of long term gain - which is the
>theoretical justification for interest, as 'the price
>of waiting'. If I want to increase the supply of
>eggs, then for a time I actually have to take eggs
>off the market, so that they can be hatched out into
>more hens to lay the increased supply. That is just a
>fact of life."
>------------------------
>---------------------
>[REPLY] I'm afraid this is Orthodox Economics 101.

Yes. For a reason.

>It is not true that capital formation requires
>"sacrifice...for long term gain."

Yes, actually, it is.

>Discovery,
>development and improvement does not require
>"sacrifice," but discovery, development and
>improvement, a point I made in my earlier post on
>"time preference."

Only by buying fertile eggs (in which case another 
farm is keeping eggs off the market) chicks or 
pullets -- i.e., sacrificing current resources -- 
instead of incubating and hatching eggs.

>I would ask rhetorically if Mr. Hattersley has ever
>raised chickens and harvested eggs?

I have.

>The rate of
>production of eggs is a function of the number of
>hens, and the number of hens is a function of the
>demand for eggs. Most any barnyard can increase its
>rate of egg production considerably without reducing
>its current rate of delivery to the local market, if
>demand for eggs is increasing at the local market.

Only by buying fertile eggs (in which case another 
farm is keeping eggs off the market) chicks or 
pullets -- i.e., sacrificing current resources -- 
instead of incubating and hatching eggs.

>It can easily meet increasing demand with increasing
>deliveries. That is to say, most any barnyard has
>reserve productive capacity in terms of eggs.

Nope. If you don't have the money to buy eggs, chicks 
or pullets, you have no way to increase production 
but by holding back eggs for incubation and hatching 
(assuming you are already operating efficiently in 
terms of feed, lighting, etc.).

-- Roy L 


		
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