| Subject: | Re: [socialcredit] Inter-war price changes | | Date: | Monday, March 20, 2006 07:10:50 (+1200) | | From: | Peter Haines <cymric @.......nz>
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Howdy Martin,
I have read that book and it is rare to find for obvious reasons. The
author went into prison because he knew too much, two weeks after Churchill
took office and brought in the right to imprison anyone without charge on
the pretext that the nation was at war.
There were people who knew the otherside of Churchills involvement and they
hated him as a betrayer. I have only ever come across one article that
alluded to that side but it didnt go into detail. It didnt sound like
scattered individuals so there must have been the beginnings of a movement
of some kind in Britain. Like Ramsay's book information is controlled.
There is no doubt that Churchill (a zionist and his grandmother was Jewish
allegedly which means that his father could claim to be a Jew) knew the
score and was 'ellected' to prosecute the desired war ( a similar replay of
George coming in during the first war) by those Ramsey knew about but I am a
little persuaded that he wasnt entirely 'faithful' from time to time to the
cause perhaps defending his British roots to some extent. There is the
matter we perhaps can be mindful of and that is while many politicians at
the top are more aware of certain forces and policy objectives than they let
on they may be very sceptical as to the likely fullfilling of them and thus
under pressure do relent due partly to this but at the same time the
programme has always been softly softly catch the monkey ( with a different
sense of time) as the Fabians operate.
Also consider that the elite know their own, family, whether legitmate or
illegitimate and circimstance make room for assets to be used when and where
required.
Time and time again it is obvious that the true story of world war two has
yet to be told. ( The true story of Rudolph Hess and his flight to Scotland
would join onto Ramsay's story in some way, Mrs Hess, Goering and others at
Nurenburg 'trials' knew Hess wasnt the one they knew but that's another
sub-story which inevitably will run into the reason Prince Teddy was painted
a pro-Nazi. If he wasnt royal family he might have shared Ramsay's cell.)
Peter H
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Hattersley" <hattersleyjm@interbaun.com>
To: <socialcredit@elistas.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [socialcredit] Inter-war price changes
> Kenneth -
>
> I'm interested in your reference to Churchill. He was a notorious failure
> at school. He was responsible for a military disaster at Gallipoli in
> 1916. He was responsible for taking Montagu Norman's advice and deflating
> the U.K. economy. He replaced Chamberlain after the beginning of World War
> II, and turned the "phoney war" into something much bigger. I have just
> been re-reading a book, Captain Ramsey's "The Nameless War", which alleges
> that Hitler was a geat admirer of the British Empire, wanted to make peace
> with England if at all possible (England was the one to declare war, not
> Germany) and deliberately ordered his divisions to hold back so that the
> British Expeditionary Force could evacuate itself at Dunkirk in 1940.
> Hitler's main concern was to defend Europe against invasion by Russian
> Communist forces, and thwart the International Conspiracy of the Zionists
> to take over the world, which included weakening the "Christian" British
> Empire.
>
> I can't vouch for the authenticity of any of this, but it's worth thinking
> about.
>
> Martin Hattersley
> 1970-10123-99 St. Edmonton AB Canada
> Phone (780)423-4081; Fax (780)425-5247
> e-mail: jmartinh@shaw.ca
> hattersleyjm@interbaun.com
>
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> To: <socialcredit@elistas.com>
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>> Hi Peter.
>>
>> Although we ordinary people only get to hear how things actually
>> happened
>> much later than the event, I think you have it right about the sequence
>> of
>> events that led to WW2, and the next stage of the global smash up.
>>
>> One issue however has me baffled. How did it come about that Winston
>> Churchill was in the gallery of the New York Stock Exchange the morning
>> of
>> the great smash ?
>>
>> Ken.
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>> Douglas has covered these years in detail. I am not able to say which
>> book but he covered the years of deflationary policy of the BoE. which
>> was
>> quite devastating and destroyed much of British industry, which was
>> followed by the crash which in tern was followed by another world war.
>> Clearly the international financiers had finally caused the sun set on
>> their until then number one servant.
>> On pages 67-69 of The Monopoly of Credit he mentions the mini-boom
>> following the war and the inflation of prices and the banks response was
>> to put both the US and Britiain under a deflation policy ( April 1920),
>> but in the case of the US they had it for only 6 months and then it was
>> switched to an inflatioinary policy until the crash which gave the US the
>> biggest boom in the history of the world.
>> Seems obvious to me that these were the crucial years when the pound and
>> the British industry and Empire were to be replaced by the Dollar empire
>> of Bretton Woods, the beginning of a global institutions or if one
>> prefers
>> invisible world govt.
>> Peter H
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>> From: "Martin Hattersley" <hattersleyjm@interbaun.com>
>> To: <socialcredit@elistas.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 3:51 PM
>> Subject: Fw: [socialcredit] Inter-war price changes
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>>
>>>
>>> From: "Martin Hattersley" <hattersleyjm@interbaun.com>
>>> To: <socialcredit@elistas.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 5:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [socialcredit] Inter-war price changes
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jeffery -
>>>>
>>>> There's an account of this, and the influence of Bank of England
>> Governor >> Montagu Norman, in John Hughes's "Major Douglas - The Policy
>> of a >> Philosophy", pages 74-76.
>>>>
>>>> Winston Churchill, advised by Norman, after some years of credit
>>>> restriction, restored the Gold Bullion Standard in England in 1925
>> (which >> was followed by mass unemployment and a general strike in
>> 1926),
>> defeat >> of the Conservative government, and the election of Labour,
>> which was not >> particularly successful in restoring prosperity.
>>>>
>>>> Douglas's comments, made to a House of Commons Committee in Ottawa in
>>>> 1923, was
>>>>
>>>> "Under the existing system, there was no alternative between an almost
>>>> unmanageable unemployment problem on the one hand, and a policy of
>>>> inflation on the other hand. If you follow the first line and restrict
>>>> your credits ... and try to get back on the gold standard ... you are
>>>> absolutely bound to have a most formidable political problem arising
>> out >> of unemployment. If the other line was taken, there would be an
>> equally >> formidable rise in prices."
>>>>
>>>> Somewhere or other, I believe there is a quotation from Churchill
>>>> regretting the damage his action had caused, although he was acting on
>>>> "the best advice". Can anyone (?Wally) put their finger on it?
>>>> Martin Hattersley
>>>> 1970-10123-99 St.,
>>>> EDMONTON AB CANADA
>>>> Phone (780)423-4081;Fax(780)425-5247
>>>> e-mail: hattersleyjm@interbaun.com
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jeffery Smith" <jjs@geonomics.org>
>>>> To: <socialcredit@elistas.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 2:55 PM
>>>> Subject: [socialcredit] Inter-war price changes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 7, 2006, at 9:08 AM, Kenneth Palmerton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After the armistice in 1918 the attempt was made to return to the
>> "Gold >>>> Standard" AT PRE WAR PARITY. As a result of the Cunliffe
>> report, that >>>> was stuffed with bankers :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course the deflation that resulted was a major cause of the
>>>>>> subsequent crash.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since so much is written about inter-war inflation and little about
>> said >>> period deflation - if it happened - could you lay out this
>> purported >>> history in a bit more detail (just a bit)?
>>>>>
>>>>> SMITH, Jeffery J., President, Forum on Geonomics
>>>>> 7536 SE Milwaukie Av, Portland Oregon 97202 USA
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