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Subject:Re: [socialcredit] land, money
Date:Sunday, March 19, 2006  21:34:32 (-0800)
From:Jeffery Smith <jjs @.........org>
In reply to:Message 3676 (written by thomsonhiyu)

On Mar 19, 2006, at 1:08 PM, thomsonhiyu wrote:
>
> What makes you so sure 'anyone else' is going to WANT to use it?

Not every slave wanted to be liberated. That does not justify slavery.

> You say the 'market' will determine that.  But will it?

Owners (whether private or public) agree on leases and sales every day.

> his property.

What made a hunk of nature property? What that one his?

> ('Improvements' are shown and assessed separately on BC Assessment tax 
> assessments.)

Most places do that. BC is world famous for doing it better.

> In 1984, there was a well founded rumour that the main road on which 
> my 2 acres fronts was to be widened from 2 to 4 lanes.  And that a 33 
> ft strip of my property all along that boundary would be expropriated. 
> Immediately across the highway to be widened from my 2 acres were two 
> 1/2 acre vacant lots.  Each would also lose 33 feet off the boundary
> abutting the road.

Instead of accommodating more cars, perhaps the public should have 
accommodated mass transit?

> I purchased the lots, and cleared the bush, and filled the swamp.

What was the cost to the ecosystem, losing swamps, which filter water 
and provide habitat for birds that fertilize plants? Any loss there?

> The last Notice of Assessment I received values them at $ 75,000 each. 
> Anytime anyone wants to give me that, they can 'own' them.  There have 
> been no takers.

Have you appealed?

> This whole question of 'assessing' seems to me, at least, to be quite 
> arbitrary.

As is any price setting.

> Who really knows what that property would be 'worth' until it actually 
> 'sells'.  And then it's only really 'worth' what someone actually paid 
> for it.  To them, and the vendor alike.

True for all goods.

>   Far better that,

is a system used by a suburb of Toronto, where the landowners 
themselves assessed their land. If they set it too low, they'd have to 
sell to any takers at that price. So everybody was both accurate and 
honest.

Still, you're just looking at the land dues half of geonomics, not the 
"rent" dividend half.

> where the value added in improvements can be credited fairly to the 
> improver on sale;

Hear, hear! And used merrily by him until sold. And the value added in 
by society can be credited fairly to community each month via land 
dues.

SMITH, Jeffery J., President, Forum on Geonomics
7536 SE Milwaukie Av, Portland Oregon 97202 USA
503/232-1337; jjs@geonomics.org; www.geonomics.org
Share Earth's worth to prosper and conserve.

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