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Subject:[socialcredit] Social Credit and Purchasing-Power, etc.
Date:Saturday, April 1, 2006  01:51:48 (-0700)
From:Wallace M. Klinck <wmklinck @....ca>

I am reposting the following comments which were originally posted to the Economic Democracy List:
 
"Douglas made the issue very clear in stating unequivocably that "we" Social Crediters never said there was never sufficient money in the hands of consumers to match the price of available consumer goods.  Depending on how much capital production and/or debt is being created there could be an excess of financial demand.  What he did say was that in order to distribute consumer goods coming off the production line we are required to engage in increasing amounts of unneccessary and wasteful activity and/or to incur debt, which processes register as financial claims against FUTURE production cycles. 
 
"What Social Credit does say is that there is increasingly insufficient consumer income to currently and permanently liquidate or cancel the financial costs incurred and emerging in consumer prices in the same period of production.  That consumers may possess sufficient financial demand to purchase goods currrently emerging from the production line is simply an observable fact which in no way invalidates the Social Credit claim of an increasing deficiency of purchasing-power.  If that purchasing-power is issued only on condition that it is a charge against future production it cannot be defined as effective demand capable of liquidating or cancelling production costs in the the same cycle of production.  This is simply a manifestation of the Slave State--something entirely incompatible with Social Credit philosophy and policy.  The policy of Social Credit is NOT to create work (i.e., "employment") but rather to minimize the requirement for it and to maximize the opportunity for leisure.  As Douglas said, if the desired policy is to create work the present orthodox financial system works almost perfectly.  This has nothing to do with Social Credit objectives--other than being diammetrically opposed to them.
 
"All too often, we seem to get all tied up in debate over financial issues before considering the prior and fundamental claim of Douglas that on a PHYSICAL level the true cost of production is consumption and is declining--and that the financial system should reflect this fact. 
 
"If one were to earn $50,000 per year and borrow $50,000 from the bank one would obviously have $100,000 of buying power--but it would be a patent falsehood to run around the community telling people that one's effective earned income was $100,000 per annum."
 
Wally

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