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Subject:Re: [socialcredit] Even's Primer
Date:Monday, April 10, 2006  06:38:24 (-0700)
From:keith wilde <kwilde @...............org>

Score one for Michael!  I have been aware of this challenge for a few days, but due to re-locating to a computer and consol I have been away from for several weeks, I had trouble finding both this message and a copy of the Primer.
 
I have re-read the Primer and acknowledge that it is different in the last half than the way I characterized it in the comment that Michael has challenged.  My memory failed me when I was writing that.  (My excuse these days, for as long as I can get away with it, is "chemo-brain".)
 
The difference, in the last half of the Primer, is that Even deals with political objections to the bare bones of principle laid out in the first half and then extrapolates to the "warm and fuzzy" prospects for a society that does adopt the Social Credit principles and techniques. He also provides justification for persons and groups who would like to attack bankers as villains, and I was thinking of some quite scurrilous propaganda I have seen from Quebecers in the name of Social Credit from few decades ago.  But he is certainly no more provocative in that respect than several other authors.
 
I couldn't help noticing the following, however:
 
QUOTE The ultimate ‘collateral’ upon which banks create and issue new money is the difference between actual consumption and potential production. And by doing exactly what the banks do when they issue loans, make overdrafts, and buy gold or securities namely, create money upon the ‘collateral’ of the nation's unutilized productive resources,the Treasury could finance public expenditures without calling upon its citizens individually to sacrifice a penny of their present incomes.ENDQUOTE--from Orage
 
Now, I believe that Michael and Bill have spilled some ink over the first part of this quotation, but I seem to have missed it if they focused on the latter clause which permits governments to issue money directly for public works (investments) and public consumption (e.g. medicare).  I am pretty sure that Bill is dead-set against such a "privilege" for governments, but Michael seems to find some latitude for it.(?)  Their issue seems to be whether or not Orage actually said it, or if he did, whether Douglas would have agreed. ??
 
Keith


Triumphofthepast@aol.com wrote:
"Beyond [page 12], the objectionable political elements become transparent." (Keith)

For example?

Michael
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