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Subject:Re: [socialcredit] Christ and Politics
Date:Wednesday, April 12, 2006  20:39:52 (+0000)
From:John G Rawson <johngrawson @.......com>
In reply to:Message 3827 (written by Peter Haines)

All this makes me think of the Germans and the British (or French) taking the same Christian sacrament immediately before a battle, each convinced it was their holy duty to slaughter the others in the next few hours.  It strikes me as the mark of those with false causes to call on religeon in any form to support them.

Why don't we stay with pointing out that the present economic system is outdated, dishonest and downright evil;  that Social Credit is logical and offers a means (which we consider the best) of overcoming this?  That way we Christians, the Muslims, perhaps the Hinddus and others can assess whether it is truly compatible with their beliefs.  That way we will not antagonise them by trying to bully them into supporting something that we haven't put across clearly enough for them to understand anyway.  I remember a newspaper report after a broadcast by our first party Leader, stating that he "attacked the banks, the churches and (I forget the other)".  While we resented it, it was fair comment on very bad politics.

It is tempting to point out the hypocrisy of religeous groups that openly support an old political party that favours, for example, globalisation.  But surely we need to show clearly why this is so, and let them form their own conclusions?

Regards.    John R.


From: "Peter Haines" <cymric@xtra.co.nz>
Reply-To: socialcredit@elistas.com
To: <socialcredit@elistas.com>
Subject: Re: [socialcredit] Christ and Politics
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:25:01 +1200

I am tempted to say I agree "Willis is sick", period,  but I will say instead Willis is slow.  He should have rounded off by concluding that Christians have to be denied the vote to truely seperate politics from religion.  He could have also said Jesus did more damage to Doctors businesses, than to pig farmers.  
There will never be an end to people who want to try and take God out of religion and social credit out of politics and economics.  Nor trying to convince people that the state created man and not the other way around.
Peter H
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:16 AM
Subject: [socialcredit] Christ and Politics

This is comment on an article supplied by Keith.

Garry Wills is sick of Democrats and Republicans using the name of God for party fighting.  So am I.  But Wills can't imagine any other kind of politics than party fighting.  Therefore, "There is no such thing as 'a Christian politics'."  This attitude disempowers because it leaves politics at the mercy of the parties.

"The Jesus of the Gospels is not a great ethical teacher. . . . He is an apocalyptic figure. . . His miracles were not acts of charity. . . . He is more a higher Nietzsche, beyond good and evil, than a higher Socrates. . . . We cannot do what Jesus would do because we are not divine. . . . The Gospels are scary, dark and demanding."

I've heard enough.  If this is the "Good News," I'd hate to hear the bad!

Michael

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