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Subject:[socialcredit] Fw: PRO-BANK DISINFORMATION Any comments?
Date:Monday, January 3, 2005  23:03:29 (-0800)
From:Joe Thomson <thomsonhiyu @....ca>

The following post was sent from New Zealand, part of a discussion on Social Credit with some of the people below I've been engaged in .  I do not have the time to reply to it myself at present, and probably couldn't do it justice anyways.  Perhaps some others on the List would care to comment on the points Mr. Manning raises?
 
 Joe
 
----- Original Message -----
From: L Manning
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: PRO-BANK DISINFORMATION
The way I see it,  Social Credit means public ownership of money instead of renting its use through interest bearing loans.
 
In NZ the interest on our total debt (around $70,000 per capita)  is the unearned income that goes to net depositors, private banks and their shareholders.
 
It  passes very quickly into the  investment pool which is increasing at more than $15b per year in NZ  (about 11% of GDP)  despite historically modest interest rates.   Most of the investment pool is speculative.
 
That's the public cost of interest,  the driving force of the private for-profit financial system.   Very poor distribution of wealth and extremely inefficient resource allocation.
 
Moreover,  in  NZ  such growth as there is  also goes directly to the investment sector in the form of dividends and profits.
 
Ordinary people  (wage and salary earners) have had little or nothing extra in real terms for decades.
 
Interest and growth  feed expectations in the investment markets.
 
That's  why consumer and household debt is rising so fast - there's no other way ordinary peple can even pretend a little bit of prosperity.
 
Without the pretence (created by ever more deceptive marketing and advertising)  consumption will collapse and  the economy will crumple into a pile of dust.
 
There can no economic democracy while we borrow the use of private money though interest bearing
debt.   So there can be no individual freedom.  And no economic "success" for the nation.
 
Period.
 
Private interest,  irrespective of other policies like National Dividend   (one form of public money)  is truly Mankind's most pressing problem.  
 
And National Dividend cannot be sustained unless private issue of money for profit is regulated, reduced  and eventually eliminated. 
 
Regards,
Lowell Manning
 
 
 
 
 





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