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Subject:Re: [socialcredit] Wacko Stuff_Douglas in Ottawa
Date:Monday, July 31, 2006  12:24:31 (-0700)
From:keith wilde <kwilde @...............org>
In reply to:Message 4249 (written by Wallace M. Klinck)

I finally was able to spend a lunch hour at the National Library and Archives. 

Douglas testimony  was given on a few days extending from April 24 to May 3, 1923, as Wally's information (below) stated.  It is bound in a volume  described as the "Seventh Report of the Select Committee on Banking and Commerce.  Minutes and Proceedings re Bill No. 83, An Act respecting Banks and Banking".   The volume is further identified as "Appendix No. 2 to the 60th Volume,  Journals , House of Commons, Canada, January-June Session, 1923.  Douglas was introduced by the chairman on page 416 and his opening statement begins on page 417, as Wally said.  nd he does come back for a precision requested by one of the Committee, on May 3rd. That is the material on pp. 695-98.  Between pages 417 and 499 the Committee heard from another informant as well as Hugh Douglas.  That could account for Wally's lack of certainty over whether he has "most or all of the relevant sections".

The volume is in good condition and is on the shelf in the main reading room of the Library.  I inquired about the possibilities of getting a copy in electronic form, but was told it is unlikely, for a document that recent.  It can be photocopied, of course, but Wally already has it in that format.

If you can tell me where (at what pages) you think you might be missing some of the exchange between Douglas and the Committee, Wally, I can have a look in the book to determine if in fact anything is missing.

Sorry to have been so slow with this.  I have had an unremitting sequence of computer and  communications problems since late June. 

Keith

"Wallace M. Klinck" <wmklinck@shaw.ca> wrote:

Thanks, Keith. Your efforts would be much appreciated. I don't have much
difficulty in scanning as I have a document feeder and Iris which seems to
be quite a good OCR program. So if it presents a problem for you I can do
it quite readily. We have the Provincial Archives here in Edmonton also--I
will contact them. Meanwhile I will be interested in any success which you
may have at your end.

Wally

----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Wilde"
To:
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [socialcredit] Wacko Stuff


> Wally, I will try the National Archives first. I have some experience
> there, and it is accessible to the public for research--not generally true
> of the Library of Parliament. I do have some past acquaintance with a
> former Librarian, however, and will take up the question with him if I
> strike out at the Archives. If it does not turn up easily, I will also
> see if your brother can give me some pointers. Judging by the page
> references you give, the testimony must be very lengthy, as is consistent
> with the dates involved. If we are successful in finding the documents, I
> would help with scanning. Mine is a rather rudimentary one, however, and
> is connected to a computer which has trouble that may be a collapsed hard
> drive. I will know next week.
>
> Keith
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wallace M. Klinck"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [socialcredit] Wacko Stuff
>
>
>> Hi Bill (and Keith),
>>
>> I have a photcopy of most or all of the relevant sections of this Federal
>> Government document (pp. 417-99, 695-98) in which Major Clifford Hugh
>> Douglas is examined by the Select Standing Committee on Banking and
>> Commerce, April 24 to May 3, 1923 (House of Commons, Ottawa.). My
>> younger brother Bob provided this years ago when working as Research
>> Director for the Federal "Social Credit" Party. Sorry I was under the
>> impression that you already had this in your possession. I have not
>> scanned it yet but will attempt to do so shortly. Right now, however, I
>> am just in the middle of shifting over to an iMac from my PC and have the
>> problems of set up, transfer of e-mails and address book, etc. I will do
>> a search and make some enquiries re the New Zealand hearings.
>>
>> It would be helpful if Keith could search the Parliamentary Library but I
>> believe that some years ago the educational Midas Group (established by
>> Hon. Alf Hooke, other former Provincial cabinet ministers and others)
>> enquired of the Library in Ottawa re the 1939 Parliamentary Committee and
>> was informed that it was not available--so I don't hold out too much hope
>> for the one of 1923. If Keith could find the complete versions of both
>> or either of these publications, this would be very desirable and
>> certainly appreciated.. It might be held in a restricted access section.
>>
>> Sincerely
>> Wally
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "William B. Ryan"
>> To:
>> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [socialcredit] Wacko Stuff
>>
>>
>>> It would have been Ottawa in 1923. That's all I know.
>>> Douglas mentions it in his Alberta testimony.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- keith wilde wrote:
>>>
>>>> If he spoke in Parliament I should be able to find
>>>> it in the Hansard. Do you have any more precise
>>>> details, such as approximate date, whether it was
>>>> in Senate or House of Commons? Was this an address
>>>> to the federal gov't in Ottawa, or to B.C.
>>>> legislators?
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>> "William B. Ryan" wrote:I still
>>>> want to see Douglas' 1923 Canadian
>>>> parliamentary testimony, ...
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