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Subject:Re: [socialcredit] The Control of Production
Date:Monday, September 18, 2006  03:32:05 (-0600)
From:Wallace Klinck <wmklinck @....ca>

Thanks for the effort expended in providing these documents--again, I   
have passed it on to the Economic Democracy List. 
 
Wally 
 
On 17-Sep-06, at 4:40 PM, MODERATOR wrote: 
 
> I believe this is Douglas's second essay to be 
> published in *The New Age.* 
> -------------------------------------------------------- 
> 
> May 1, 1919 
> 
> The Control of Production. 
> 
> By Major C. H. Douglas. 
> 
> It has frequently and rightly been emphasised in *The 
> New Age* that the essence of any real progress towards 
> a better condition of Society resides in the 
> acquisition of control of its functions by those who 
> are affected by the structure of Society; and it is 
> well if somewhat vaguely recognised by the worker of 
> all classes that this control is at present not 
> resident in, but is external to, Society itself, and 
> that in consequence men and women, instead of rising 
> to an ever superior control of circumstance, remain 
> the slaves of a system they did not make and have not 
> so far been able to alter in its fundamentals. 
> 
> This system is assailed under the name of Capitalism; 
> but of the millions who are convinced that by the 
> destruction of Capitalism the Millennium will be 
> achieved, not very many have yet awakened to the fact 
> that Capitalism died an unhallowed death twenty-five 
> years ago, more or less, and that the driving force of 
> the system which, more than any other single cause, 
> has produced the tangle of misery and unrest in which 
> the world now welters, is Creditism. 
> 
> Credit is a real thing; it is the correct estimate of 
> capacity to achieve, and the function and immense 
> importance for good or evil of this real credit will 
> be impressed on Guildsmen and others with cumulative 
> insistence in the difficult times ahead. But for the 
> moment it is desirable to consider a narrower use of 
> the word; one conveying, however, a sense with which 
> it is more commonly associated--financial credit. 
> 
> Financial credit is simply an estimate of the capacity 
> to pay money--any sort of money in legal or customary 
> tender; it is not, for instance, an estimate of 
> capital possessed; and its use as a driving-force 
> through the creation of loan-credit is directly 
> consequent on this definition. The British Banking 
> system has, since the Banking Act of 1844, based its 
> operations on the ultimate liability to pay gold, but 
> in actual fact the community, as a whole, has 
> dethroned gold, and bases its acceptance of cheques 
> and bills on its estimate of the bank credit of the 
> individual or corporation issuing the document, and 
> for practical purposes not at all on the likelihood 
> that the bank will meet the document with gold. This 
> bank credit simply consists of certain figures in a 
> ledger combined with the willingness of the bank to 
> manipulate those figures and at call to convert them 
> into purchasing power. What, then, is likely to induce 
> a Bank to increase the credit by the creation of 
> loans, etc., of an applicant for that favour? The 
> answer is contained in the definition: the capacity to 
> pay money; and the credit will be extended absolutely 
> and solely as the officials concerned are satisfied 
> that this condition will be met. It is quite 
> immaterial whether the judgment is based on existing 
> “securities” or contemplated operations; the basis of 
> bank credit to-day is simply and solely the capacity 
> within an agreed time-limit, which may be long or 
> short, to pay money. 
> 
> Now apply the consideration of this to such a problem 
> as control of the provision of decent housing for the 
> miners at rents not exceeding 10 per cent. of the 
> miners’ earnings. There are a number of idealists who 
> cannot be labelled otherwise than half-baked, who will 
> say that it is a “sound business proposition” to house 
> the miners properly at low rents. There are also a 
> number of people by no means half-baked who are 
> prepared to lose a little on housing to retain control 
> of industry. That it is in the highest sense sound is 
> unquestionable; but as to being a business-proposition 
> we suggest to those well-meaning people of the first 
> class whose minds are above detail, that they go to 
> the banks unsupported by security, and endeavour to 
> borrow money for such a project. 
> 
> We see, then, that it is purely a question of the 
> financial effect likely to accrue from an enterprise 
> which will induce the banks to back it with credit, 
> and the use-value or inherent desirability of doing 
> certain work is a pure by-product. But the deduction 
> to be made from this is of transcendent importance--it 
> is that to control industry in the interest of use 
> values you must back use-values with credit. And that 
> means the control of credit. And in order to control 
> credit the base on which it rests must be altered to 
> meet the changed aspirations of Society. The economic 
> power of Labour is a potential power. By withholding 
> it, Labour (using the term, in its widest sense) can 
> break down civilisationtion; but it cannot build it up 
> again by any agency that the mind of man has yet 
> conceived which does not involve the use of credit 
> capital in some form or other. The community creates 
> all the credit capital there is; there is nothing 
> whatever to prevent the community entering into its 
> own and dwelling therein except it shall be by sheer 
> demonstrated inability to seize the opportunity which 
> at this very moment lies open to it; an opportunity 
> which if seized and used aright would within ten years 
> reduce class-war to an absurdity and politics to a 
> disease. 
> - 
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