| Subject: | Re: [socialcredit] Douglas: 1923 Ottawa - Part 1 | | Date: | Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:06:27 (-0800) | | From: | William B. Ryan <w_b_ryan @.....com>
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| In reply to: | Message 4418 (written by Jim) |
"The A1+B1, A2+B2 analysis is present is Joseph's text
as well as others..."
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There may well be others, though I'm not aware of who
they might be. If you know of who they might be,
perhaps you will refer us to them. Any such
information would be most welcomed.
I've converted the two Joseph papers that were
forwarded to us by Wally Klinck into plain text that
I've archived at
http://www.geocities.com/socredus/compendium/joseph
The theoretical structure of Social Credit inherited
by us from Douglas and his colleagues is very sparse.
Either we build on it (rather than accepting it as
sacred text, which the remnant Social Crediters are
prone to do) or admit the entire project is a complete
waste of time.
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"...but since you say he does not consider 'steady
state', or 'quasi-steady state', I must assume that
you have not answered my question."
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I've certainly answered your question in regards to
the 1934 paper from Joseph, in which he simply does
not consider either steady state or quasi-steady state
in his analysis. It goes to relevancy. He
specifically mentions changing coefficients in
reference to labor displacement, which makes it
consistent with Douglas' approach. If you're asking,
What is quasi-steady state?, that's a totally separate
question. I've pointed out a potential weakness in
Joseph's taxonomy, in which he tells us where B1 goes
but leaves open where B2 goes.
Steady state is a dynamic process where nothing is
changing--every relationship between the elements is
remaining constant both quantitatively and
proportionately.
Quasi-steady state is a theoretical concept that
admits that things may be changing in the dynamic
process, perhaps quantitatively, but where the
relationship between the elements is remaining
constant. That is to say, from the atomistic
perspective of any single element, everything appears
to be remaining constant while the process is
continuing.
In respect of human cultures there are several
examples that remained in quasi-steady state for
centuries, where the language, mode of dress,
agriculture etc. remained essentially the same, with
only the population increasing. As more and more
people were born, more and more land of essentially
the same quality was brought into cultivation using
the traditional methods, until there was no more land,
and the culture collapsed when the population outgrew
its means of sustenance.
The Mayan culture in the Yucatan and Central America
appears to have been one such culture, which had
already collapsed centuries before the Spanish
conquest.
It appears that much of the area, subsequently
overgrown with jungle, was once an elaborate system of
raised bed fields watered by canals.
--- Jim <jschroeder@shaw.ca> wrote:
[snipped]
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