(Peter wrote:-) The main reason there is so
much govt/parliament control and over regulation of society by laws is the
debt banking system and their monopoly of the Community Credit as if their
own.
(Joe replies:-) I largely agree with
that.
(Peter continues:-) Adding more laws as you
advocate and defending their usurpation of what is the peoples property is no
answer, but a further tinkering for 'the greater good'.
(Joe replies:-) It depends on how you view
this "usurpation". There is no question that the real 'credit' arises
from the Community, the Banks are only its 'mobilizer' . The problem, as
I see it, is not that the Banks "create the means of payment out of
nothing". It's that the way in which they currently administer
this financial 'credit', once created, in the economy as a
whole. That clearly doesn't relate to modern physical
realities. And that's what needs to change. Still, I don't think
it necessary to remove the 'credit creating (mobilising)' function from the
Banks and centralize it all in some type of 'Authority', and I'd like to
see where Douglas, himself, clearly recommended such
a move. Despite what many of his supporters seem to think
about it, I think there's substantial evidence to the contrary.
(Peter continues:-) Its unDouglas to look to govt
like socialism for remedies by law outside of the fundamentals.
It is fundamantal to ensure property is not taken
by those who dont own it. This is natural protection of citizens but to
interfer within the fabric of the economy to fight symptoms will only
cause govt to grow through laws and society is already over regulated by this
practice.
Douglas remedies would see the reversal of
both. He represents political, constitutional, economic and financial
reform. This isnt tinkering with the philosophy/ideology which has
brought us the cruel world as revealed by our friend in the Philippines.
We in the west have it a lot better, at present, but poverty is on the
increase as we head for crisis on numerous fronts.
From Bretton Woods to today the scam-monopoly has
grown by crimes against humanity of various kinds including the likes of
international drug business and even wholesale wars to control prices and fill
coffers of the hangers on. military buildup and arms racing has
begun a new unprecidented level and I expect it will be to fight over the
pieces when the current system is collapsed.
If social crediters learn how to tinker I can see
no use for us in the future.
(Joe replies:-) I don't disagree with any
of that. But, again, I find it hard to understand how a 'monopoly' (of
credit) can be broken by making it completely absolute. If anything, it
seems to me it's far too concentrated now, (in Canada, at least).
I would like to see it become more de-centralized, which it could be, to
considerable regional advantage, if the SC principles were acted
upon.
The difficulty at present lies in the overall
'repayment' of loans, it seems to me, at least so far as the economy as a
whole is concerned. Not in their
'creation'.
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