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Subject:[socialcredit] Re: Social Creditors give money away which causes inflation
Date:Wednesday, April 4, 2007  06:53:50 (-0400)
From:Keith Wilde <keithwilde @.........ca>

Hugh, I am not persuaded that you have a deep understanding of social credit and of the creditistes argument with what they consider to be "mere" money reform.  But the contrast may become more clear in the next few days.
 
Keith
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Subject: Social Creditors give money away which causes inflation

Monetary Reformers create debt free money that has to be repaid which does NOT cause inflation.  Hugh




We are NOT Lafarge's lab rats !

From: "Keith Wilde" <keithwilde@sympatico.ca>
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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 17:03:28 -0400

Here it is.  I would be glad to have a reader finally, but I wonder if it is too long for Richard's attention span? What is it that you don't understand in the following phrase, Richard, even after I gave you a hint that would be hard to mistake:  "the element of what Ryan calls fascism in proposals for monetary reform like those of Zarlenga"?  If I have misinterpreted Mr. Ryan, I know he is very capable of setting things straight.  It has been several days since I read your initial posting here (which I found to be a very useful and refreshing approach. I was about to lead the applause, but was not fast enough.), but it will now become even more interesting to veterans of this list.  In particular, I suspect (hope) we can look forward to a dissection of the fundamental political difference between social crediters and mere "money reformers".  If I am not mistaken, you have already tainted yourself with the latter impurity by this intervention.
 
My computer memory says this file was closed on January 4, 2004.  The review has never been published.  I sent it to William Krehm, publisher of the magazine Economic Reform.  He said it was interesting, but that it is too long for his organ.  Later on, he met Stephen and became enamored sufficiently to write his own review in just as great length, in two parts.
 
 

BOOK REVIEW

The Lost Science of Money : The Mythology of Money - The Story of Power. By Stephen Zarlenga, American Monetary Institute, Valatie, NY, 2002. ISBN 1-930748-03-05. xii + 724 pp. Selected bibliography; chapter end notes; index, liberally illustrated. Hardbound; printed on a heavy coated paper; strongly sewn binding; boards wrapped in what appears to be a long-wearing vinyl material that is unlikely to shrink and warp the cover. (Pictured and described, with instructions for ordering, at http://www.monetary.org. ) After several weeks with The Lost Science as the main focus of my reading and writing, my copy has been subjected to repeated flipping back and forth, making and erasing marginal notes. The page layout and the high quality paper accommodated this aggressive approach very well--which seems to have been anticipated by the author=s invitation to regard the book as a work in progress, to be not only refined but also extended. The physical durability of the book will be appreciated by those who welcome it as a mine of supporting anecdotes and arguments for monetary reform as well as by those who accept it as a substantial challenge that will have to be comprehended before it can be countered.

And comprehension is a challenge; this is not a book that is going to win literary prizes. I have nonetheless been entertained by the chase, in the fashion of anticipating how the clues in a mystery novel are going to add up to the solution in the back of the book. Getting to that Aha! experience took me many weeks of full-time effortBa luxury that was only possible because I started reading it the day I returned from hospital in a post-anaesthetic daze following five hours of surgery, and then had three months of paid leave to recuperate. This is not to say that the book is boring. Far from that; it is quite often startling. That feature drove me into a lot of ancillary reading and re-reading to verify and to flesh out an understanding of what I was seeing in Lost Science. I should add that I am not a specialist in monetary theory, banking and finance, nor have I previously immersed myself in the literature of monetary reform. This is therefore the report of a reader who was initially interested in learning about the origins and early manifestations of money, and who stayed to find out if the author could bring closure on some remarkable claims and proposals.

Having made that effort, I now solicit the reactions of specialists in the broad range of topics the author has embraced, and those of policy analysts and advisers generally. To assist in that process, I have undertaken here to summarize the argument and to identify a few questions that may have bearing on the desirability of the recommendations and the plausibility of their implementation. I hope this will encourage readers with a critical interest in the subject matter to overlook the abundant stylistic annoyances and editorial flaws (some of which might be excused by the announcement that much of the text was translated from an initial version in German) and react to the message.

The essence

The author and publisher are frank in presenting this work as a political polemic, with frequent insider rallying calls for the converted and insults for their adversaries. A reader who approaches it primarily to become informed about the nature and history of money will have an easier time comprehending the abundance of interesting material assembled here if he understands in advance the elements in the AMI campaign. I have attempted to provide that kind of assistance. There are many themes developed in the book. An early exercise of summarizing each of them in one or two sentences produced a whole that I found to be quite simply outrageous. To publish such a summary as a review of the book would turn away readers other than veteran combatants in the field of monetary and financial reform. That would be unfortunate, for this is more than an indignant rant. It represents a significant research effort in secondary sources and finally succeeds in proposing a solution that brings closure to nearly all of the issues addressed. I say finally because I remained skeptical right up to the end of my second or third effort to get the parts to hang together, and in spite of being sympathetic to the author=s general orientation, I was stunned by some parts of his argument on first reading. Furthermore, while I am satisfied that the elements hang together to make a plausible case, I cannot without competent assistance on several of the topics make a judgment on whether or not it is compelling.

By lost science, the author means the knowledge of how to conduct a money supply system in the public interest. Its main principles are Aristotle=s observations that money exists not by nature but by law and that usury is contrary to nature. (Being an inert substance, money cannot be expected to yield an increase--contrary to a loan of seeds or breeding livestock.) The mythology, on the other hand, is a welter of confusing and deceptive concepts about the nature of money and finance that has evolved over time and been propagated by moneylenders and financiers who use it as an instrument of power. It could be termed the Adark science@ of money. One of its elements is the doctrine that Areal@ money is a commodity which exchanges for other goods and services on the basis of equal values of effort required to produce them. A labor theory of value, in other words. A frequent consequence when this commodity theory is in application is a shortage of the means for effecting exchange and hence a depression of commerce and production. Part of the mythology is an insistence that excessive money supply is worse than not enough and that governments cannot be trusted to operate an honest and effective money system without causing destructive inflation. The story of power is therefore an interpretation of Western history that explains its ups and downs as a consequence of ill or well managed monetary systems, involving elements of the Adark science@ used by its custodian-practitioners to manipulate popular attitudes and politicians. By these means they have controlled the issuance of money and credit, snaring governments and ambitious entrepreneurs as well as wage slaves into their service. This has enabled them and their courtiers and courtesans to live lavishly on exploited labor, the natural resources of the earth and the common human heritage of cultural/technological achievements from ages past. In Karl Marx= analysis, the source of social injustice was the system of industrial capitalism; in the view of monetary reformers the villainy is transposed to finance capitalists. The most damning accusation is that the club of international bankers deliberately promote warfare to increase their wealth and power.

The appropriate response to this situation, in the view of the American Monetary Institute, is that management of money and credit policy should be a fourth fundamental branch of democratic governments, on a par with the legislative, executive and judicial functions. The existing system of central banks and international clearing houses is a perpetuation of ancient temple cults and medieval secret societies that have used their gold hoards plus numerical legerdemain to mystify the populace and control governments. In our times, their insistence on the control of inflation is an undemocratic favoritism of plutocrats whose wealth and power are augmented many-fold by deflation. Their argument that inflation harms mainly widows and pensioners dependent on fixed interest incomes is dismissed by Zarlenga as a deliberate fraud, perpetuated by a subservient class of priests who have failed collectively to challenge the truthfulness of their indoctrination. If economists consulted the historical evidence, he asserts, they would find that government money systems have been successful in the past, that what they are taught about the origins of money is false, and that contrary to the inflation bogey, the record shows that immensely more misery has been inflicted by deflation.

Although the argument is presented chronologically in the book, an uninitiated reader will find it useful to start at chapter 14, read rapidly from there through chapter 20 and then consult chapter 24 for an exposition of the AMI policy prescriptions. These provide the context for an argument that is anchored in U.S. issues and experience, beginning in Colonial days when policies of the Bank of England were a major element in the impetus to Revolution. Colonies experimented with their own money systems due to the general shortage of the instrument. This gave them the courage to try the Continental Currency to finance the Revolution. And it worked. A century of experiments and controversy ensued, culminating eventually in establishment of the Federal Reserve System just prior to the outbreak of WWI. That was not the end of controversy, however, as the Fed has continued to draw strong criticism from some quarters, as either incompetent (Friedman) or malevolent (AMI). The particular target of this book is the ideological position of American Libertarians, whose foundations are the popular individualism of Ayn Rand and the neoclassical synthesis of marginalism with capital and interest theory by Austrian economists at the turn of the 20th century.

AMI ridicules the Libertarian position as an arm-chair deduction from unexamined premises. The premises are easily refuted, in the author=s view, by throwing up some important counter examples from the historical record. This casts doubt on consequences and prescriptions inferred from those premises. It is not an approach that flowers into a fully fleshed narrative, however. The Lost Science of Money presents a sequence of snapshot instances of the Alost science,@ but the connective tissue is not always persuasively transparent. Rather than primary research in document archives or newly discovered traces, the AMI thesis is argued with the assistance of secondary sources developed in previously published historical works. This book contains some important elements for a monetary interpretation of history, but the author acknowledges that it is only a beginning. This shortcoming may be viewed as an economical approach from the AMI perspective. For if the manifestly popular argument of their adversary is as flabby as they believe, it may be polemically strategic to throw up some ringing refutations as a buffer behind which to prepare the definitive historical case.

Expansion of the thesis

The thesis and the campaign are not new, therefore, but rather the extension of an American tradition. A strong sub-theme is that American thinkers have been at the forefront in arguing the principle that money is a public good that should be supplied by governments. Their adversary in colonial times was the Bank of England, and the residue of its influence remains as the target of Zarlenga=s reforming zeal. The relative success of the Continental Currency was taken as evidence in favor of government as supplier of money by some observers after the War, including Jefferson, Tom Paine and Andrew Jackson (Franklin had already spoken in favor of it in the courts of Europe), but the notion was denigrated by the financial interests, personified by Alexander Hamilton. The story is therefore linked closely to arguments over monetary and banking policy in the United States during the 19th century, involving the 1st and 2nd Banks of the United States, the Civil War issuance of Greenbacks, and the Populist campaign for bimetallism and free coinage of silver. The continual churning of this issue spurred research by American scholars into the nature and history of money and banking institutions. Notable among these was Alexander Del Mar. Zarlenga cites no fewer than six books by Del Mar, written in the last half of the 19th century to show that effective and successful monetary systems were operated by governments in the general interest from ancient times. Lost Science supplements the Del Mar thesis with evidence from the work of modern historians that governments anciently were the monetary supplier and regulator.

The assertion that conventional understanding about the nature and origin of money is defective requires a persuasive explanation, for it is not believable that a topic so central to human interests has not drawn the attention of investigators before now. Indeed, Zarlenga has relied upon such investigations. It is therefore necessary to explain why they have been ignored and do not constitute a regular part of the curriculum in civics and political economy. The loss of the Ascience of money@ seems to require either stupidity or suppression of the truth. Either way, an angry finger points inevitably at specialists in the broad domain of political economy as academics or advisers to governments and interest groups. The AMI explanation suggests deliberate intent to evoke voluntary stupidity via cupidity.

Big and powerful banking companies are portrayed here as being old, based on secretive lore and traditions which are carried in family dynasties or fraternities. AMI has assembled an interesting array of traces from the distant past to show that money (in a European-Middle Eastern context) has always had a mystique associated closely with religion, priesthoods and gold. Knowledge of how to manipulate money and credit are ancient secrets of the temple and protected by temple cults. The book attempts to show that this generalization has continuous application from antiquity up to modern times. One segment of this loosely connected story is that the Knights Templar rose to sudden wealth and power during and after the Crusade that attacked Constantinople in 1204. Until that time successors of the Roman Emperor had exercised significant control over European monetary affairs through their ability to assert a gold/silver exchange ratio that had been maintained since it was set by Julius Caesar. The Knights obtained the secret of how this served to constantly funnel wealth into the empire while they were also looting its treasury. After then dominating economic and political affairs in central Europe for many decades, the Knights were driven out but escaped with a great treasure hoard which they took with them to Scotland, there to found Scottish banking dynasties that much later on persuaded Adam Smith to create a fantasy doctrine which papered over their dirty trade secrets and sent generations of economists on a wild goose chase. (Zarlenga does not claim to have an iron-clad case for this explanation, but has not shrunk from putting it forward as a plausible supposition.)

The author finds that the Lost Science is virtually unknown to mainstream economic thought. Instead of exploring and explaining the nature and proper management of money, as a public duty of their profession, Zarlenga complains that they have instead functioned as a priesthood to protect the machinations of the powerful clique who control money and finance, by obfuscating simple reality with a cloak of mystery. This is not a straightforward matter of bribery or servile status, for economists have deceived themselves with a non-scientific approach to their subject matter. The wrong turn in their thinking coincides roughly with the waxing influence of the youthful Bank of England in the middle decades of the 18th century. They then followed the lead of Adam Smith in a false notion of money=s origin and nature. This was not simply a wrong turn, in our author=s judgment, but rather a deliberate put-down of more enlightened views that were then gaining currency.

The indignation of Lost Science over the role of economists is shared by the authors of all the monetary reform literature that has come to my attention. (But I have not made a systematic search.) Not only is the standard approach of economists completely mistaken, reformers suspect it is even that way by design. Regardless of intent, however, dominant economic doctrines have been at least permissive of unfortunate myths about the nature and functions of money. These myths have served to perpetuate unnecessary misery and injustice on a global scale for many centuries. In the view of reformers, inadequacies in monetary systems and popular understanding of them explain much if not most of the infelicities suffered in the Western world since the dawn of history.

As noted above, the political adversary of AMI is the attitude of contemporary Libertarians, and the vitriol about economists is fairly interpreted as frustration for their failure to provide support. While Adam Smith provides a handy (because hoary) text for the Libertarian view, the villainy of economists was compounded a century later by the marginalist revolution in economic doctrine. Stanley Jevons is fingered as having deliberately buried the dawning recognition that the true nature of money is an institution of the law, as having laid a foundation for the fixation of monetary policy on inflation, and as assertively presuming that monetary policy should be in the hands of one privately controlled bank (pp. 356-9). The Austrian contribution to the marginal revolution is also associated with suppression of the re-emerging science of money. Carl Menger=s 1892 publication AOn the Origin of Money@ (Economic Journal) is juxtaposed here with a book published in the same year and which Zarlenga has identified as an important source of his information about early monetary systems: William Ridgeway, Origin of Metallic Weights and Standards. Ridgeway was a student of classics, judging by his publications, and Zarlenga says that because his book Apresented a powerful argument for an institutional origin of money, Carl Menger felt compelled@ to (re) issue his argument for a trading origin of money. This attribution of intent is supported by no more than co-incidence, and the timing seems strained. It would be reinforcing to see something from Menger=s EJ essay that mentioned Ridgeway specifically and negatively. Regardless of that detail, however, the Austrian position became unmistakable a couple of decades later, following an intervention from the German Historical School by Georg Friedrich Knapp. The Lost Science celebrates Knapp=s 1905 book, The State Theory of Money as a primary exemplar of the AMI policy position. Controversy arose between the Knapp and Menger views, and Ludwig von Mises issued the definitive response from the Austrian side, says Zarlenga, in his Theory of Money and Credit, a 1912 statement that was subsequently reinforced by Friedrich Hayek. This Austrian perspective is the principal source for the contemporary doctrine on monetary policy that is promoted by Libertarians, according to Zarlenga, and its polemical representation by Ayn Rand is the particular target of AMI indignation. Even more significant, of course, is the position of her most prominent acolyte as Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors. The doctrines of the devil, in other words, suffuse the foundation and the figurehead of the chief instruments of villainy, the Fed, the BIS and IMF.

Chapters 19 and 20 are the climax to the story of money, arguing that establishment of the Federal Reserve System was a successful conspiracy fostered by venerable European banking houses, and that the clumsy Fed then Awrecked America@ . The bankers are said to have assembled institutions of greater power than they really knew how to handle, and neither themselves nor economists really understood what would happen when they tried to use these powers in their own interest. Another interpretation, which AMI prefers, is that the Fed was the ultimate instrument of evil designBat least for the time. Not content with that success, however, the insiders= club went forward to even greater power with the scuttling of reserve requirements and the pushing up of BIS and IMF. Zarlenga believes, with quite a lot of anecdotes in support, that they are evil in their intent to foment wars, for that is how they truly gain wealth and power. Regardless of motive, the effects are demonstrable in hindsight, and widely acknowledged as mistakes, most notably the Great Depression.

As with most monetary reform literature I have encountered, the primary target of Lost Science criticism is interest and the loan pyramids that pour a torrent of revenues into banks= account books (the primary content of their vaults). What really inspires the indignation of reformers is the ability of financial barons to extend their power and to overturn every ethical principal ever raised against usury. They lend something that doesn=t really exist (a social faith of some kind) and charge interest on it. This argument is developed only very slowly within The Lost Science, for the initial chapters are all about fiat versus commodity money. That part goes down without difficulty, but it inspires a question about the difference between money and credit and how the author is going to bring credit in under the same rationale that makes money supply a quintessential government function. The question was sharpened by some ancillary reading in Henry George (The Science of Political Economy) which makes a very interesting and persuasive case for the likelihood that credit is a natural precursor to money. It becomes an ever more obviously important question as the usury issue comes into focus as the main target of AMI=s campaign. Full clarity breaks through only in the very last chapters. Finally, however, the distinction between money and credit is fully acknowledged: AThanks to confusion over the nature of money, the Fed=s measurements of the money supply are primarily measuring the credit supply. But credit and money are two different things, and Fed Chairman Greenspan admitted in recent testimony that he was having difficulty defining money.@ (p. 548)

The clarification that credit is different from money is followed a few pages later (p. 571) by these words from the Archbishop of Canterbury (William Temple) that embrace the AMI goal of making money (and credit) supply a function of government: AThe private issue of new credit should be regarded in the modern world in just the same way in which the private minting of money was regarded in earlier times. The banks should be limited in their lending power to the amount deposited by their clients, while the issue of newer credit should be the function of public authority.@ That initiative by the Church of England in 1942 was followed in 1946, we are told, by nationalization of the Bank of England.

By the time I had been through six chapters of demonstration that good money gets its value by fiat, I was salivating for an equally telling argument that credit can be handled by fiat as well. The mood is set by the observation that since bankers are making loans out of thin air, the business is really a public good (air being after all the quintessential common property). An atmosphere of suspense is created with the implicit but nagging question: Can the business of extending credit, which seems inevitably to require a mutual assessment of prospects by two parties to every individual loanBa borrower and a lender, actually be turned over to a government bureau? And how can a prescription this fundamental be reached through empirical demonstration? Once it is acknowledged that most money is credit, how can Wm. Temple=s rule be implemented? If every depositor account is a transfer of credit from someone else, and most are also liabilities that the bank may be called upon to honor without prior notice, how can the banker possibly make any loans at all? He has nothing to lend except credit. The solution to this puzzle is revealed at the surprise ending which, in spite of the clues that were dropped abundantly through the text, I am chagrined to admit that I didn=t see coming.

The answer is called Athe 100% Reserve Solution@ and is attributed to both Frederick Soddy and Henry C. Simons. It works by printing enough government authorized notes (legal money) to equal the total of credit money in existence. This would be used to liquidate all existing bank loans, and new money would henceforth be issued only by a government authority. Bankers would then be restricted in their lending to the extent of this new paper money in their vaults, deposited with them by customersBa modern equivalent of the goldsmiths= system but with >greenbacks= replacing gold. The issuance of new money, restricted to a government authority, would finance meritorious public investment projects and pay for public services, but it could also be direct cash to consumers. The fourth fundamental branch of government implied here would therefore have fiscal and budgetary implications; it would issue new money not only to grease the wheels of commerce but also to supply >public goods= and possibly even a minimum income supplement to maintain consumption standards.

In another surprising twist, given the generally venomous tone of Lost Science toward economists, prominent members of the American Economics Association are acknowledged to have written up this plan in 1939 and gotten it endorsed by hundreds of their peers.

Toward an evaluation

As a mystery novel, it works. Several interesting sub-themes in the book distracted me into ancillary literature for clarification or confirmation of puzzling or startling assertions or innuendo. The final solution does draw together most of these threads. But is it a sufficient solution to the problem that inspires AMI effort? And if it is conceptually sufficient, what are the prospects for its implementation?

It is not difficult to see that it would emasculate a lot of usurers (banking and finance companies). Furthermore, it does so without having to perform the anticipated trick of transferring the arguments favoring fiat money to the credit money system (which would say in effect that new credit should be issued only by government). And it explains an accusation repeated several times in the book that the views of some distinguished scholars are Achildish@. In retrospect, this adjective is meant to suggest that the requirement of intrinsic value (or gold backing) for an acceptable money is not worthy of adults who can think abstractly. Part of the lead-up to the policy prescription is a distinction made at several places in the book between deposit banks and banks of issue. The 17th century Bank of Amsterdam is cited as an example of the former, and the Bank of England of the latter. The Bank of Amsterdam is saved from being a bad example by the fact that it was owned by the city (government), for it did issue moneyBits own notes. But it apparently did not issue credit money, as did the Bank of England, which was set up in cooperation with some of the Amsterdam businessmen who wanted to escape that restriction and make profits by financing the wars of feuding princes.

The policy orientation of the new monetary authority would be to assure an ample money supply, in contrast to the generally deflationary preference of private financiers. Creditors win in a money crunch, and monetary reformers (borrowers) traditionally prefer inflation for the mirror opposite reason. Zarlenga argues that a managed (government) money system need not succumb to inflationary temptations, and in principle that may be true. Nevertheless, in pointing to experience with Continentals, Greenbacks, and the German hyperinflation, he does acknowledge that counterfeiting was a major contributing factor in the loss of value suffered by these fiat money systems. This may be due to an operational problem that occurs to me: The 100% reserves solution seems to entail an awful lot of paper and printing, and trucks to carry it around. The weight and bulk can be reduced, of course, by printing a large share of it in very large denominations. But would that create problems of divisibility when a banker wanted to make a modest sized loan and didn=t have a sufficient supply of notes in convenient denominations? Are bulk reduction and divisibility an inescapable dilemma in such a system? The very high denominations required for bulk reduction would certainly be a tempting invitation to counterfeiters. Unemployed bankers could become printers and engravers. Unless technical solutions are found for this problem, the system does seem vulnerable to a particular type of inflation.

A major implication of the solution is that the proposed fourth branch of government would be much more than the instrument of monetary policy. It seems inevitably to be the major, if not the only, instrument of fiscal and budgetary policy as well. Since money would enter the economy via government spending, the fourth branch would require the power to over-ride the spending and cost-cutting aspirations of the legislature and executive branches. Thus its implementation does entail profoundly revolutionary change to systems of governance. It implies tight integration of monetary with budgeting, spending and taxation policies.

Before committing themselves to a revolutionary aspiration of this magnitude I should think that reformers would want to do some strategic thinking about their prospects for success. An effective and sufficient strategy should include answers to the following questions:

- Is the goal accurately and adequately specified?

- Is the conceptual solution one that will achieve the goal?

- How large is the potential revolutionary constituency?

- Is the propaganda campaign adequately conceived and specified?

- Have the adversaries of reform been accurately and adequately identified?

- If the goal is achieved, will it satisfy the underlying values that drive reformers?

Popular understanding and attitudes are obviously critical to the success of such a revolutionary undertaking. Are citizens of democracies sufficiently indignant to throw the bastards out? And which bastards? (AWhen the mob goes in search of food its first action is to wreck the bakeries.@ At the height of civil rights agitation in the late1960s, the mob in Detroit burned down their own homes.) Extreme concentration of wealth and power is much in the news these days, and fraud in corporate executive offices has victimized many small savers who believed they could make up in capital gains what they were lacking in wages and salaries. But does this distress translate easily to a focus on money and banking policy? Can bankers be fingered as the chief villains in the spectacular stories of executive suite embezzlement and Wall Street fraud? The chief accomplices of CEO thuggery seem to be accountants--and lawyers always, of course. Banks were definitely involved (the second largest Canadian bank recently agreed to pay a fine of almost $100 million to the SEC for its part in the ENRON scam, and now international banks are embroiled in the Parmalat fraud), but does that mean that usury is the source of all the evil? Would the 100% solution have prevented this?

The enduring dilemma for reformers is the passivity of what should be a mob. Why do citizens in a democracy not get rid of their oppressors? Ferdinand Lundberg explored the phenomenon in the mid-sixties in The Rich and the Super-Rich, at a time when the question was why the rich (e.g. Goldwater) did not rise up against the super-rich (Rockefeller). His answer was that the merely rich didn=t want to foreclose on opportunities to become super-rich themselves. The American dream fizzled out in the 1970s and after a period of dithering and unease reasserted itself as denial, via technological and military imperialism. Now it is not the comfortably rich whose motives arouse the curiosity of thinkers and writers, but rather the struggling representatives of the diminishing middle class. Michael Moore has captured this phenomenon in his 21st century advice on Ahow to talk to your conservative brother-in-law@ about his illusion that the powerful thugs who are stealing the American birthright are actually on our side.

The AMI response to this dilemma is to put the blame on economists (especially the resurgence of neoclassicism against the Keynesian heresy), Ayn Rand and Bible-reading by the masses. This seems a bit misplaced when the most obvious malefactors have credentials as accountants and MBAs. But that would be to put the blame on technology and invite the defence that Aguns don=t kill people@. It is really the attitudes of the malefactors that motivate and permit their bad behavior, and the sources of contemporary morality identified in Lost Science cannot be easily dismissed. The main issue raised by Lost Science is therefore the role of economistic reasoning in the creation of modern moral sensitivities. Is it responsible for Amarket populism@ and Amarket fundamentalism@?

Identifying economics as the adversary doesn=t open up an obvious strategy, however. The first difficulty is that there are Agood@ as well as Abad@ economists. Those who proposed and endorsed the A100% solution@ have to be acknowledged as acceptable and even admirable. How did they come up with a sane and desirable policy in spite of their presumed grounding in economic theory? Zarlenga says that a new breed of money managers must be developed, and that persons with specialized training in economics must be excluded as having lost the necessary elasticity to learn something that conflicts with their indoctrination in orthodoxy. Hmmm. Does he risk throwing out the baby with the bathwater? It has been done before, as when Renaissance thinkers and early moderns rejected the system of their scholastic masters. As a graduate of the Hutchins program in reading and critical thought at the University of Chicago, Zarlenga is probably familiar with Mortimer Adler=s criticism that many of the problems in modern policy analysis are due to philosophical mistakes by those impatient movers and shakers--which could have been avoided if they had paid closer attention to Aquinas and Aristotle. He in fact takes a similar stance: That the scholastics were right in their criticism of usury, and that virtually all of economic theory is a mistaken moral philosophy based on rejection of the medieval structure that had been painstakingly erected from an Aristotelian base. That still leaves the nagging problem of how to account for the Agood@ economists. Zarlenga provides an answer for that question too, personified as Georg Friedrich Knapp, whose empirical (historical) approach is contrasted to the armchair seductions of the moral adversary, represented by Menger and Jevons. Zarlenga can therefore claim to be working with purely empirical methods and come up with a policy recommendation without imposing his own value judgments. The moral teaching was there all the time, in the work of Aquinas. The perverse moral science of economics was erected under the influence of rash radicals who flouted the authority and wisdom of scholastic tradition, curried favor with the rising merchant (and money-lending) classes and encouraged the masses to believe that by being able to read the Bible they were also competent to think for themselves.

The potential efficacy and economic wisdom of the solution I leave to the evaluation of others more competent than me. Based on my own experience with the story, however, I am skeptical of its immediate effectiveness as a political instrument. The novelty of the whole and of many individual parts lead me to doubt that there is a mass audience ready to pounce upon it as Athat=s it! This is the answer I=ve been groping toward!@ Virtually everyone has some complaint about Athe economy@, but it seems to be mainly non-economists who believe they have the Aready and easy way@. Monetary reformers are no exception. But how many potential voters are agitated over the specific issue of monetary reform and believe it is the strategic first or next step to restoring or establishing democracy? Maybe more than I suspect. But if the masses are not ready for the manual of revolutionary warfare, education and infiltrating the academy may prove ultimately to be the best strategy. To that end, AMI=s priority should be publication and discussion of the 1939 petition by members of the American Economics Association.

I have been moving and re-shelving books recently, and was struck by a sense of the absurd in looking over dozens of titles addressing the task of economic development under the presupposition of rational, civilized and systematic progress toward shared goals. How naive and futile in these days of daily documented proof that it is raw force, technological power and gross political corruption that determines the pace and destination of Adevelopment@! The strategic immediate choice for people in almost every nation seems to be a focus on whatever it takes to motivate eligible voters in the United States to evict the buccaneers who have assumed imperial power for themselves. __ Keith Wilde

 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Cook" <rickycook21@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [socialcredit] Historic accuracy?

> In the interest of full disclosure and fairness to all subscribers, I would
> like to ask Keith Wilde to post his full review of Stephen Zarlenga's "Lost
> Science of Money," along with Zarlenga's public response. Otherwise I don't
> think members will gain a full appreciation of the implications of the
> comment here that links Zarlenga's name with use of the word "fascism."
>
> cc: Mr.Stephen Zarlenga


>
>
>>From: keith wilde <
kwilde@tc-biodiversity.org>
>>Reply-To:
socialcredit@elistas.com
>>To: socialcredit@elistas.com
>>Subject: Re: [socialcredit] Historic accuracy?
>>Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 09:06:36 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>I anticipate with interest the exchange that will
>>develop between you and Bill over this one.
>>
>>Keith
>>
>>
>>--- Richard Cook <
rickycook21@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > In my opinion it is absolutely fruitless and a waste
>> > of time to use labels
>> > like "fascist" to discuss any aspect of monetary
>> > research or proposals. It
>> > resembles a smear campaign. Ideas should be
>> > discussed impartially and on
>> > their merits. Mussolini "made the trains run on
>> > time." So I suppose trains
>> > and watches are "fascist?"
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >From: "Keith Wilde" <
keithwilde@sympatico.ca>
>> > >Reply-To:
socialcredit@elistas.com
>> > >To: <socialcredit@elistas.com>
>> > >Subject: Re: [socialcredit] Historic accuracy?
>> > >Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 02:18:37 -0400
>> > >
>> > >Very interesting!  The implication for Douglas that
>> > Ryan notes is
>> > >paralleled by the "creditary" theory developed by
>> > Meakin and Gardiner--both
>> > >of which I have found to be very persuasive.  On
>> > the other hand, the point
>> > >made by McGunn. is reinforced in the work of
>> > Alexander Del Mar.  In
>> > >particular, I have his 1896 book History of
>> > Monetary Systems which is
>> > >primarily a history of coinage that emphasizes the
>> > consistency over time of
>> > >particular coins and their direct link to a
>> > recognized political authority.
>> > >A notable example is a gold coin (solidus?)  that
>> > was the standard of value
>> > >throughout Europe until the fall of Constantinople.
>> >  From the introductory
>> > >notes to my 1983 re-issue of his book, it is
>> > evident that Del Mar was a
>> > >justifiably recognized authority on the history of
>> > the precious metals and
>> > >of coinage. This one is the last of his books on
>> > the subject, which number
>> > >six in total--plus many articles. So, there was
>> > plenty of quite recent
>> > >scholarship to the contrary that Innes could have
>> > used.
>> > >
>> > >I just happened to have the Del Mar book on my
>> > shelves when starting to
>> > >read Zarlenga's Lost Science of Money, having
>> > spotted it in the window of a
>> > >used book store not many months previously.  I read
>> > it in conjunction, and
>> > >found that Stephen made very extensive use of Del
>> > Mar, resting much of his
>> > >argument on the work of the latter. Although there
>> > seems to have been a
>> > >perception of common interest between Zarlenga and
>> > Meakin-Gardiner while
>> > >the former's work was in progress, publication and
>> > review shattered it, for
>> > >they found that they were not on the same track at
>> > all. Ryan's observation
>> > >about Douglas and Innes is reinforcement of the
>> > point.
>> > >
>> > >There is interesting anecdotal linkage here to the
>> > element of what Ryan
>> > >calls fascism in proposals for monetary reform like
>> > those of Zarlenga.  The
>> > >reissue of the Del Mar book that I have was an
>> > intiative of The National
>> > >Poetry Foundation, University of Maine at Orono, in
>> > The Ezra Pound
>> > >Scholarship Series.  Pound was imprisoned for many
>> > years by the United
>> > >States because of his support for ideals of the
>> > Mussolini regime in Italy.
>> > >He was visited frequently in prison by Eustace
>> > Mullins, a youthful admirer
>> > >who researched the origins of the Federal Reserve
>> > System as a staff member
>> > >at the Library of Congress. This was published in
>> > 1952, and the copy I have
>> > >was re-issued in 1954 as The Federal Reserve
>> > Conspiracy.  It was put into
>> > >my hands by the former leader of the Social Credit
>> > Party of Canada, John
>> > >Blackmore, but I had never read it until I found
>> > that Zarlenga was basing
>> > >much of his argument upon it.  At the time he
>> > published the book, Mullins
>> > >was also serving as chief of research for the
>> > Unamerican Activities
>> > >campaign of Joseph McCarthy. This link led me to
>> > review a lot of conspiracy
>> > >literature, some of which I had read and discounted
>> > long in the past.  As I
>> > >passed on these bits of info to Stephen, he became
>> > upset with me and
>> > >accused me of wanting to destroy his position,
>> > which was not the case.
>> > >
>> > >(I have read the subsequent exchanges under this
>> > head, those between Martin
>> > >and Ryan, and the substantial essay by McGunn. of
>> > this morning. This seemed
>> > >like the most appropriate place to insert my own
>> > comment.)
>> > >
>> > >Keith
>> > >
>> > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >From: <
william_b_ryan@yahoo.com>
>> > >To: <
socialcredit@elistas.com>
>> > >Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 11:26 AM
>> > >Subject: Re: [socialcredit] Historic accuracy?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Then I take it you do not agree with this from
>> > Innes'
>> > > > 1913 paper
>> > > >
http://www.geocities.com/new_economics/innes
>> > > >
>> > > > "...there is overwhelming evidence that there
>> > never
>> > > > was a monetary unit which depended on the value
>> > of
>> > > > coin or on a weight of metal; that there never
>> > was,
>> > > > until quite modern days, any fixed relationship
>> > > > between the monetary unit and any metal; that,
>> > in
>> > > > fact, there never was such a thing as a metallic
>> > > > standard of value."
>> > > > ------------------
>> > > >
>> > > > Here's the thing.  Douglas' theory makes no
>> > sense
>> > > > whatsoever from the orthodox money is a medium
>> > of
>> > > > exchange perspective.  His theory makes perfect
>> > sense
>> > > > from the creditary perspective expressed by
>> > Innes.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --- William Hugh McGunnigle
>> > <
wmcgunn@maxnet.co.nz>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > With due respect the Innes papers were designed
>> > to try
>> > > > to demonstrate that there was no control of
>> > coinage in
>> > > > the dark ages. They ignored to a large extent
>> > the fact
>> > > > that monarchs used the "tally stick" to keep
>> > track of
>> > > > finances and these were used for "tax
>> > assessment".
>> > > > Coin value was related to these. I therefore
>> > stand by
>> > > > my previous statement that, although it appeared
>> > that
>> > > > coinage was not really under control there was a
>> > rigid
>> > > > value system related to weight of Gold, Silver
>> > and
>> > > > Copper metal in coins. The methods of assessing
>> > coin
>> > > > purity had been established long before the
>> > advent of
>> > > > the Roman Empire by Archmeides of Greece.
>> > Although it
>> > > > appeared crude by modern methods of assey it was
>> > still
>> > > > adequate for practical purposes. Contrary to
>> > popular
>> > > > belief the men who did this type of assey work
>> > were
>> > > > skilled and generally honest because they were
>> > > > appointed by Royal decree. The penalty for
>> > incorrect
>> > > > assey was death. Innes work, while skilled and
>> > > > undoubtedly honestly conducted, suffered from an
>> > > > obvious bias. He was selective in his choice of
>> > > > primary sources and tended to ignore sources
>> > that
>> > > > contradicted his basic premises. In all fairness
>> > he is
>> > > > not the only historian to do this, but he is
>> > open to
>> > > > strong critisism because of it. I personally
>> > cannot
>> >
>>=== message truncated ===
>>
>>
>>
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