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Subject:Re: [socialcredit] Reply to John Rawson
Date:Monday, April 16, 2007  12:34:08 (-0600)
From:Wallace Klinck <wmklinck @....ca>
In reply to:Message 4701 (written by Richard Cook)

Thanks, Richard.  Perhaps I should have said, to avoid confusion or misunderstanding, that in any sovereign state production credits can be issued fully to mobilize the creative resources of the nation, in accord with consumer desire.  This does not mean that the state should initiate the issue of credit for production so as to control the policy of production, which latter should be vested not with the state but with the consuming public as a body of individuals.  Nor does it mean that the productive capacity of a nation would be expected to be fully exploited in a phrenetic frenzy of production activity.  In the Social Credit sense, the option of increasing leisure must be factored into the concept of an economy operating at "capacity"--that is, the economic activity of the community should function optimally

Sincerely
Wally

On 16-Apr-07, at 8:01 AM, Richard Cook wrote:

An excellent statement. Thank you.









From: Wallace Klinck <wmklinck@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: [socialcredit] Reply to John Rawson
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:33:34 -0600

Some brief comments to another correspondent who had offered a  critique of another author.  Offered in the hope that they may  relevant to Richard Cook's current endeavors:

"Dear ........:

"You are quite correct in noting that author Philpott fails to deal  with the consequences of the replacement of labour by technology,  this being of crucial importance as it relates to the present  defective financial system.
Refer:  http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2007/04/13/ the_route_of_the_problem.

"Countless  authors point to many of the obvious painful symptoms of  our flawed financial system which fails to facilitate consumption  without creating spiralling, accumulating and unrepayable debt.  The  central economic problem is not primarily production but one of  consumption and this problem is directly related to the mechanism of  finance and banking to which we so tragically adhere.  Any sovereign  state can issue production credits to facilitate deployment of its  proven available creative resources.  It can also issue consumption  credits directly to all citizens and also to all retailers to effect  a falling price level and full consumer access to the output of each  production cycle--within that same cycle.  The present financial  system creates financial costs and prices at an increasing rate  relative to the rate at which it distributes financial incomes.   Unfortunately, it only issues money in the final analysis for  production and never for consumption except as bank debt which has to  be repaid out of future production.  This simply creates an  increasing imbalance between financial costs and distributed consumer  income.  I attach a document which was prepared during the 1930s but  which remains relevant today.  It was largely inspired by Mr. L.  Denis Byrne who subsequently was sent to the Province of Alberta by  Major C. H. Douglas to advise that Province's newly elected (and  first ever) "Social Credit" Government in 1935.  Social Credit until  it was betrayed from within--which betrayal  took only several years  to accomplish.  So long as financial, economic and social problems  are "attacked" from the puritanical standpoint of providing "work",  they will only worsen--because such an approach constitutes a  fundamental violation of natural law which must always carry its own  unpleasant consequences.  In nature, organisms have immediate access  to the physical means of existing;  the process is dynamic.  Orthodox  finance and economics is static; individuals can only consume the  output of any production cycle after they first have borrowed against  future incomes (thereby incurring debt) and/or produced,  additionally, something else in order to acquire fully sufficient  financial income required to obtain the goods and services which are  required or desired.  Social Credit would implement measures which  would establish dynamic vs static economics.

For your interest, I also attach an essay concerning "Ezra Pound and  Social Credit" and the poet's flawed understanding of the later."

Sincerely
Wally

On 15-Apr-07, at 8:29 AM, Richard Cook wrote:

I just want to point out that the proposals I am workinig on just  now include both direct creation of credit by the government (non- tax, non-debt) for infrastructure spending and a national dividend  for citizens. I believe that in today's conditions, both are needed.




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