eListas Logo
   The Most Complete Mailing Lists, Groups and Newsletters System on the Net
      HOME    SERVICES    SOLUTIONS    COMPANY    
Home > My Lists > socialcredit > Messages

 Message Index 
 Messages from 4681 to 4740 
SubjectFrom
Re: [socialcredit] Richard
Reply to John Raws Joe Thom
RE: [socialcredit] Richard
historic document william_
RE: [socialcredit] Henry Ra
RE: [socialcredit] John G R
Re: [socialcredit] Peter
Re: [socialcredit] William
Re: [socialcredit] Wallace
Re: [socialcredit] Richard
Re: [socialcredit] Wallace
Re: [socialcredit] Peter
RE: [socialcredit] Norman
Re: [socialcredit] Joe Thom
Re: [socialcredit] William
RE: [socialcredit] John G R
Re: [socialcredit] Peter
Re: [socialcredit] Wallace
Pound, Social Cred william_
Re: [socialcredit] Martin H
Bryan W. Monahan william_
Re:Peter on liquid Keith Wi
Re: [socialcredit] Joe Thom
Re: [socialcredit] Peter
The Establishment william_
Re: [socialcredit] Keith Wi
Re: [socialcredit] Peter
Re: [socialcredit] William
Re: [socialcredit] Joe Thom
Re: [socialcredit] Joe Thom
Re: [socialcredit] Joe Thom
Re: [socialcredit] Wallace
Re: [socialcredit] William
Re: [socialcredit] Peter
Re: [socialcredit] Peter
Re: Bryan W. Monah william_
Re: [socialcredit] Peter
Ezra Pound and Soc Wallace
1934 New Zealand P william_
Shameful Economic Eric Enc
An Emergency Progr MODERATO
The State Theory o william_
Re: [socialcredit] Wallace
Re: [socialcredit] Richard
invalidating the S william_
Re: [socialcredit] Martin H
Richard Cook's lat MODERATO
Re: [socialcredit] John G R
Re: [socialcredit] Peter
Re: [socialcredit] John G R
Re: [socialcredit] Peter
Conflicting Ideas? Joe Thom
more on the State william_
RE: [socialcredit] John G R
Re: [socialcredit] John G R
Re: [socialcredit] William
Re: [socialcredit] William
Re: [socialcredit] William
Re: more on the St william_
Notes on a Return william_
 << Prev. 60 | Next 60 >>
 
socialcredit
Main page    Messages | Post | Files | Database | Polls | Events | My Preferences
Message 4749     < Previous | Next >
Reply to this message
Subject:Re: [socialcredit] more on the State Theory
Date:Thursday, May 17, 2007  01:10:47 (+1200)
From:William Hugh McGunnigle <wmcgunn @.........nz>
In reply to:Message 4744 (written by william_b_ryan)

Further to my previous comment
     I don't think the US government particularly wanted to have the 
responsibility of providing the world with enough dollars to maintain the 
oil trade. It was foisted upon them by the Bretton Woods agreement. Now the 
US has to maintain the supply of dollars in terms of world trade to prevent 
the world's global economy from collapsing. Comments that the USA have 
manipulated this for their own advantage may to some degree be true, but 
that does not mean that the US government's financial advisers particularly 
want to maintain this position when it is quite plainly bleeding them dry. I 
am quite sure that the USA would willingly give up that position if it could 
do so without creating world financial trading chaos. In 1948 when the 
dollar dominated world trade the USA was the world's greatest manufacturing 
centre. Although today this is no longer true the USA still remains the 
largest and most affluent market for manufactured goods. That requires money 
and has meant that the US government has needed to run deficits for the last 
50 years to supply both its own country and the world with enough dollars to 
maintain world trade. It is an iniquitous system and doing immense damage to 
that country. The USA is in the same position now that the UK was in at the 
turn of the 20th century. The UK only recovered when it gave up its position 
as a reserve currency. There was a period of very great hardship there until 
the pound sterling reajusted its value on the international market.
      regards
               Bill Mc G
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <william_b_ryan@yahoo.com>
To: <socialcredit@elistas.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:00 AM
Subject: [socialcredit] more on the State Theory


> On May 15, 4:23 pm, "The Trucker" <mik...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> "There is little but taxation and the force of the USA
> in insisting that dollars must be used to buy oil that
> gives the US dollar any value at all."
> --------------------------------------
> ---------------------------------------
>
> Dollars have value because sellers will accept them
> when tendered for what they are selling.  By "dollars"
> we mean deposits denominated in dollars that are
> created by commercial banks when they grant loans.
>
> Taxation is the analogue to sales by a commercial
> enterprise.
>
> A firm with little prospect for sales would have
> little credit with the commercial banks.
>
> The same is true for governments with little prospect
> for tax collections.
>
> Where is your evidence that the government of the USA
> "insists" that dollars must be used to buy oil?
>
> Isn't it rather due to the fact that the domestic
> product of the USA is very nearly greater than all the
> rest of the world's economies combined?*
>
> It is the domestic product of the USA that gives value
> to its dollar in international transactions.
> -
>
> * I know this is an exageration but you see the point.
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________________________________
> Be a PS3 game guru.
> Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! 
> Games.
> http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Some introductory materials to the discussion topic of this list are at
> http://www.geocities.com/socredus/compendium
> You're subscribed to this list with the email wmcgunn@maxnet.co.nz
> For more information, visit http://www.eListas.com/list/socialcredit
> 

Services:  HomeList Hosting ServicesIndustry Solutions
Your Account:  Sign UpMy ListsMy PreferencesStart a List
General:  About UsNewsPrivacy PolicyNo spamContact Us

eListas Seal
eListas is a registered trademark of eListas Networks S.L.
Copyright © 1999-2006 AR Networks, All Rights Reserved
Terms of Service