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Subject:Re: [socialcredit] Re: Are bank deposits loans?
Date:Wednesday, June 20, 2007  19:31:02 (+1200)
From:Peter <cymric @.......nz>

What I would like to know John H is the situation if the banks loose their charters and become finance companies, ie a autonomous entity in the public sector created the community credit and fractional reserve banking is no more.
 
What is the normal status of savings/deposits where the public 'lend' if one likes to them.  They would need to put those funds to work in the market to create assets greater than their liabilities.
Also what is the issue regards 'reserves' or some other form of security. 
Peter H
 
 
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Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 6:46 PM
Subject: [socialcredit] Re: Are bank deposits loans?


Re: Are bank deposits loans?

Credit money created by a bank and deposited in a borrower's demand account might represent a loan to the borrower (although it does not need to be). It is hardly a loan to the bank, which would be a nonsense - since banks do not lend to themselves. Neither is money (check, cash or credit transfer) deposited in a customer's bank account a loan to the bank, for the reasons I have given previously.

When money is truly loaned from one entity to the other, that money may be used in whatever way the second entity wishes, including on-lending. The only constraint on the arrangement is the agreement of the second entity to repay the sum loaned within a prescribed time-frame (or on demand) -- with or without the payment of interest.

This is never the financial arrangement which operates in regard to deposits in banks. Banks do not on-lend anything which is part of the money supply, nor do they ever lend out reserves to the public. They are prohibited from doing either of these things. Reserves always remain within the banking system, and are transferred between banks whenever credit transfers occur between different bank accounts. In other words, reserves tag along after deposits (of public money), but never form part of those deposits. The reserve transfers occur essentially between the reserve accounts of the commercial banks with the central bank.

Moreover banks are always able to provide payment of money to a depositor in the form of a check or by credit transfer. The only repayment problem arises (under a fractional reserve system) if there is a run on the bank and depositors all demand repayment in cash within a short space of time. That potential problem is peculiar to a fractional reserve system. I cannot think of circumstances where it would ever arise within a 100 per cent reserve banking system.

-- John Hermann


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